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Title: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Brazen on August 11, 2015, 04:28:55 AM
I'm going to take two old tower systems, a notebook PC and two hard drive TV boxes to the recycling facility this weekend, and send a tablet to a postal recycler for money. Any tips on securely deleting all my personal details before I do so?
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Syt on August 11, 2015, 05:04:51 AM
http://www.wikihow.com/Destroy-a-Hard-Drive
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Brazen on August 11, 2015, 06:42:16 AM
QuoteThe fastest, most direct method of destroying the platter is with a hammer. Put it on a surface that can take a beating and is easy to clean up, strap on some goggles and safety gloves, and take out your aggression that's been pent up ever since George Lucas blasphemed all over what was a perfectly good franchise
:lol:

Some great ideas there, thanks  :)
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 11, 2015, 06:47:09 AM
I put a few magnets on one and then hammered nails into it.

There are professional services that'll expose it to a giant magnet and then use a drill press. 

You could load it up with bootnnuke and zero it out numerous times, and then physically destroy it.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Maladict on August 11, 2015, 06:52:49 AM
I usually take out the HDD and hit it with a hammer a few times.
Put some cloth over it so you don't get hit by pieces of glass and metal.

Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Syt on August 11, 2015, 06:57:19 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on August 11, 2015, 06:47:09 AMthat'll expose it to a giant magnet

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Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Monoriu on August 11, 2015, 08:34:03 AM
I usually dump the HDD and lots of water into a plastic bag. 
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: viper37 on August 11, 2015, 09:01:40 AM
Install Windows on another drive* or use this:
http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/make_pe3

Install Ccleaner (https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download).
Plug your tablet in Windows, it should see it as a drive.
Run Ccleaner.
go to Tools => Driver Wiper => (Wipe) Entire Drive => (Security) Complex overwrite (7passes) or very complex overwrite (35 passes) => select your drives
It's gonna take 2-3 days, maybe more, depending on the level of security you chose, the size of your hard drives, the speed of your computer.
I recommend "complex overwrite (7 passes) wich is sufficient in most cases.
It has the advantage of not destroying the hard drive, wich can than be used by the recycling center to rebuild computers for poorer people.


*If you already have your new computer, simply plug your old hard drive in it, temporarily.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: viper37 on August 11, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 11, 2015, 08:34:03 AM
I usually dump the HDD and lots of water into a plastic bag. 
not enough.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: lustindarkness on August 11, 2015, 09:15:31 AM
I use Federal Hydra-Shok .45 ACP 230 grain hollowpoints.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 05, 2015, 08:45:12 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on August 11, 2015, 08:34:03 AM
I usually dump the HDD and lots of water into a plastic bag.

Easy mistake to make, but that won't do anything to a hard drive except rust it.  The water would short out chips if power was going to them, but a hard drive platter is just a big magnet.  Magnetize the whole thing and it goes from ones and zeros to nothing but ones.  A good forensic analyst would check the relative strength of the magnetism, though, so that's where physically destroying the platter comes in- then they've got to piece together the platter and piece together the data that was on it.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 05, 2015, 08:49:55 AM
My actual recommendation is to give a hard drive a pass with DBAN (Dave's Boot and Nuke) before handing it off to a computer recycler.  That makes data unrecoverable to an extent that physically destroying the drive is only really worth the extra effort if you've got stuff pertaining to national security on there (or it's required by company policy, but they'll usually contract with somebody to do the dirty work).
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on October 05, 2015, 01:34:34 PM
You could also make some thermite and then laugh while the data burns. 
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on October 05, 2015, 02:25:55 PM
We either degauss them or physically destroy them with a punch.  Or both if we're feelin squirrely.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: viper37 on December 01, 2015, 09:48:55 AM
New tech around:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/startech-standalone-eraser-dock-review/
Aimed at corporations who disposed of many drives a year.  I wouldn't recommend it for one drive every 5 years.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: lustindarkness on December 01, 2015, 10:34:51 AM
Reminds me, I have to go to the shooting range soon, I have an old broken laptop I can use as a target.
Title: Re: Securely disposing of old computers
Post by: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on December 01, 2015, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 05, 2015, 08:49:55 AM
My actual recommendation is to give a hard drive a pass with DBAN (Dave's Boot and Nuke) before handing it off to a computer recycler.  That makes data unrecoverable to an extent that physically destroying the drive is only really worth the extra effort if you've got stuff pertaining to national security on there (or it's required by company policy, but they'll usually contract with somebody to do the dirty work).

For national security and similar applications there exists a shredder for solid objects.  For hard drives the drive usually gets disassembled first, with the platters and controller boards going into the shredder while the inert parts go to a recycler.  Also the way to destroy floppies, USB sticks, and any other electronic devices that need to be destroyed to be sanitized.  I have never seen one, but supposedly they can ingest cellphones whole (presumably without the battery...).