Nigeria is slowly spiraling into civil war

Started by jimmy olsen, May 20, 2013, 11:02:54 PM

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Queequeg

#15
May 21, 2013, 08:43:43 AM
Christians have money, sea access and are better educated and organized. Boko Haram means Western Education is Forbidden. Doesn't matter how militant they are if they're fucking retarded.
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Viking

#16
May 21, 2013, 08:51:19 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 21, 2013, 08:43:43 AM
Christians have money, sea access and are better educated and organized. Boko Haram means Western Education is Forbidden. Doesn't matter how militant they are if they're fucking retarded.

Try telling the Interahamwe that.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

derspiess

#17
May 21, 2013, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2013, 08:36:33 AM
The Christians aren't just gonna sit back and take it.

Hopefully not, but Christian populations tend to be the victims more often than not in similar sectarian conflicts around the third world.
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Viking

#18
May 21, 2013, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 21, 2013, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2013, 08:36:33 AM
The Christians aren't just gonna sit back and take it.

Hopefully not, but Christian populations tend to be the victims more often than not in similar sectarian conflicts around the third world.

Christians tend to fetishize being killed for their faith rather than killing others for their faith, so yeah, they tend to be victims. In most places where muslims are not involved, like India, even when there is radical anti-christian agitation it usually stops short of murder as long as it remains non-political.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

#19
May 21, 2013, 09:14:26 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 21, 2013, 08:18:54 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 21, 2013, 02:50:41 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 21, 2013, 12:48:46 AM
Nigeria is half Christian.  The good half.

There's a good half?
Oil, fertile land and Lagos.

I suspect Lagos is 80 pct shanty town.
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Maximus

#20
May 21, 2013, 09:18:49 AM
Doesn't sound much different than it was in the mid 90s when a guy I knew was there.

alfred russel

#21
May 21, 2013, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 11:08:09 PM
So according to Alfred's rules, should we pull our ambassador?

No--it appears we have Marine guards there.

http://www.msg-history.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2115&g2_page=2

You keep coming up with places and asking whether we should pull our ambassador, and a quick google on most of these places indicates there are marine guards there or we already evacuated most of our personnel.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
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garbon

#22
May 21, 2013, 09:55:54 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 21, 2013, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 11:08:09 PM
So according to Alfred's rules, should we pull our ambassador?

No--it appears we have Marine guards there.

http://www.msg-history.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2115&g2_page=2

You keep coming up with places and asking whether we should pull our ambassador, and a quick google on most of these places indicates there are marine guards there or we already evacuated most of our personnel.

How many marines are sufficient? I'm not sure why you'd use casual pictures of marines partying as proof that the respective ambassadors are safe.
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Kleves

#23
May 21, 2013, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2013, 08:36:33 AM
The Christians aren't just gonna sit back and take it.
:yes: It would be shocking if they just turned the other cheek rather than retaliating violently.
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11B4V

#24
May 21, 2013, 10:03:35 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 09:55:54 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on May 21, 2013, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 20, 2013, 11:08:09 PM
So according to Alfred's rules, should we pull our ambassador?

No--it appears we have Marine guards there.

http://www.msg-history.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2115&g2_page=2

You keep coming up with places and asking whether we should pull our ambassador, and a quick google on most of these places indicates there are marine guards there or we already evacuated most of our personnel.

How many marines are sufficient? I'm not sure why you'd use casual pictures of marines partying as proof that the respective ambassadors are safe.

Well if you ask the Jarheads, one or two would do it.  :P
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Viking

#25
May 21, 2013, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: Kleves on May 21, 2013, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 21, 2013, 08:36:33 AM
The Christians aren't just gonna sit back and take it.
:yes: It would be shocking if they just turned the other cheek rather than retaliating violently.

They don't, though they pretend to do so. Like on Sulawesi where church burnings by muslims have happened quite a lot the nigerian christians are burning mosques as well.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Eddie Teach

#26
May 21, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 21, 2013, 10:15:35 AM
They don't, though they pretend to do so. Like on Sulawesi where church burnings by muslims have happened quite a lot the nigerian christians are burning mosques as well.

Nigerian Christians are burning mosques in Indonesia?  :huh:
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alfred russel

#27
May 21, 2013, 10:20:54 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 21, 2013, 09:55:54 AM
How many marines are sufficient? I'm not sure why you'd use casual pictures of marines partying as proof that the respective ambassadors are safe.

I don't know.

What I do know is that when I comment that ambassadors shouldn't be in dangerous locations without security such as marines, you really don't make me look foolish by wondering whether I would want to pull ambassadors out of countries x, y, and z when either marines are there or we already pulled out.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Valmy

#28
May 21, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
I bet Christian Okoye would not turn the other cheeck.  He would run right over Boko Haram.
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#29
May 21, 2013, 10:24:43 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
I bet Christian Okoye would not turn the other cheeck.  He would run right over Boko Haram.

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