Russian arms 'to deter foreign intervention in Syria

[Syt]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22688894

Russian arms 'to deter foreign intervention in Syria'

Russia says it will go ahead with deliveries of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles to Syria, and that the arms will help deter foreign intervention.

Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said the missiles were a "stabilising factor" that could dissuade "some hotheads" from entering the conflict.

Russia also criticised an EU decision not to renew an arms embargo on Syria.

The decision came as the BBC heard evidence that 200 people were killed in a massacre in western Syria this month.

More than 80,000 people have been killed and 1.5 million have fled Syria since the uprising against Mr Assad began in 2011, according to UN estimates.

'No deadline'
On Monday, the EU said member states would be able to decide their own policy on sending arms to Syria, after foreign ministers were unable to reach the unanimous decision required to extend the current arms embargo past Saturday.

However, in a declaration announced after 12 hours of talks, it agreed not to "proceed at this stage with the delivery" of equipment.

The EU's Foreign Affairs Council is to review this position before 1 August, in light of fresh developments to end the conflict including the ongoing US-Russia peace initiative.

Speaking to the BBC, UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said the 1 August date did not represent a deadline, and that the UK could start arming Syrian rebels from now, although it had no active plans to do so.

A US state department spokesman said the US supported the EU's move.

The Syrian foreign ministry said the decision showed the EU's "obstruction of international efforts to contribute to the achievement of a political settlement".

Russia says the move directly harms the prospects of an international peace conference proposed by Moscow and Washington that would be held next month.

"A whole range of actions that have been undertaken, not without the participation and not without the support of our Western partners including the United States and France... are serving to undermine the idea of calling a conference," Russian media quoted Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov as saying on Tuesday.

Russia has repeatedly blocked efforts to put more pressure on Mr Assad. Along with the US, Moscow has been leading efforts to organise an international peace conference on Syria next month.

Mr Ryabkov said the contract for the S-300 missile systems had been signed several years ago.

"We consider these supplies a stabilising factor and believe such steps will deter some hotheads from considering scenarios that would turn the conflict international with the involvement of outside forces," he was quoted as telling journalists, in a coded reference to the use of Nato warplanes in Libya.

The S-300 is a highly capable surface-to-air missile system that, as well as targeting aircraft, also has the capacity to engage ballistic missiles.

It is broadly comparable to the US Patriot system which has been deployed by Nato to guard Turkish air space against attack from Syria.

Israel's warning
There had previously been a reluctance to mention the sophisticated weapons system by name, and the BBC's Jim Muir in Beirut says the latest Russian statements could be seen as an escalation.

Indeed, some analysts see confirmation of the arms sale as a "game changer" for the Syrian crisis.

"It virtually ensures that the US-Russian talks will be meaningless, sends warning signals about similar arms transfer to Iran, can drag Israel into the Syrian fighting, and would sharply alter US and allied 'no fly' capabilities," said Anthony Cordesman of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies.

There had been reports that Moscow was holding back on delivering the arms, in exchange for an Israeli commitment not to carry out further air raids over Syria, our correspondent says.

Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon said the Russian missile systems had not yet left Russia.

"I hope they will not leave, and if, God forbid, they reach Syria, we will know what to do," he said.

The EU embargo, first imposed in May 2011, applies to the rebels as much as the Syrian government.

Britain and France had been pressing for the ability to send weapons to what they call moderate opponents of President Assad, saying it would push Damascus towards a political solution to the two-year conflict.


RUSSIAN S-300PMU SYSTEM


Type: Surface to air missile system, capable of hitting aircraft, cruise and ballistic missiles

Special feature: Fires two missiles at a time, vertically, making it versatile and accurate

Origin: S-300P dates from the 1960s but current state-of-the art export versions are S-300PMU-1 and 2 which were developed in the late 1990s

Manufacturer: Almaz-Antey

Cost: $900m for full system although it is not clear whether this is what Russia is supplying to Syria

Specification: Each launcher vehicle

carries four missile containers (two missiles per target). A full battalion is six launcher vehicles with a total of 24 missiles plus command and control and long range radar detection vehicles

Capability: Russian 48N6 are the standard missiles fired from S-300PMU launchers. They have a range of 5-150km at an altitude of up to 30km

Response time: Vehicle stopping to missile firing is 5 minutes

Source: Royal United Services Institute



Analysis

Jim Muir
BBC News

While lifting the EU arms embargo is theoretically good news for the fractious Syrian opposition, it is clearly going to be some time before it has any effect on the battlefield balance. Its authors hope the decision will send a strong enough signal to the Assad regime that it is time to hand over power. That is extremely unlikely. It is hard facts on the ground that count for a regime that has shown determination to fight to the end to stay in power.

While European arms supplies remain for the moment theoretical, the step has stirred an angry reaction - possibly even an escalation - from the Russians. They've said the move jeopardises efforts to convene a peace conference, and that they plan to honour a prior contract to supply Syria with advanced S-300 air defence missiles. Israel sees that as a threat to its own security, and has warned that it "would know what to do".

The stakes are clearly getting higher. But for the rebels, at least the eventual possibility of carefully-controlled arms deliveries is there, in what looks like being a bloody, long-haul struggle.

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JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel's defense chief said Tuesday a Russian plan to supply sophisticated anti-aircraft missiles to Syria was a "threat" and signaled that Israel is prepared to use force to stop the delivery.

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-warns-russia-against-giving-syria-missiles-132538404.html

[crazy canuck]

Seems to be heating up.  What are the odds the Russians start sending troops as advisors and observers?

[Neil]

The Israelis shooting at the Russians?  I was under the impression that the Israelis pretty much all are either Russians or Arabs by this point.

[Caliga]

Russian Jews != Russians.

[11B4V]

Seems to be heating up.  What are the odds the Russians start sending troops as advisors and observers?

Israeli's have killed their "advisors" before. Wont be much different in this situation either.

[DGuller]

Russian Jews != Russians.

[Zanza]

Russian Jews != Russians.

Otherwise they probably wouldn't have left for Israel in the first place.

[11B4V]

Jews will end up finding and taking out those sa-10's 20's anyway.

[Syt]

Jews will end up finding and taking out those sa-10's 20's S-300s anyway.

FYP

[11B4V]

Jews will end up finding and taking out those sa-10's 20's S-300s anyway.

FYP

What happened to the good ole days.

[Neil]

Jews will end up finding and taking out those sa-10's 20's S-300s anyway.

FYP

You did it wrong.  NATO designations are correct.

[Neil]

Russian Jews != Russians.

That's not correct.

[11B4V]

Jews will end up finding and taking out those sa-10's 20's S-300s anyway.

FYP

You did it wrong.  NATO designations are correct.

Thaty's what i thought the system in question should be the sa-20

[Neil]

Jews will end up finding and taking out those sa-10's 20's S-300s anyway.

FYP

You did it wrong.  NATO designations are correct.

Thaty's what i thought the system in question should be the sa-20

And you were right to think so.  Unless they really are exporting old SA-10s.