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Started by Jacob, May 15, 2013, 02:42:36 PM

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How do you feel about the US's social and political situation?

Downward slide: rent-seekers, hyper partisanship, and misinformation everywhere. The rot has set in and the decline of the American Empire is well underway.
19 (41.3%)
Yeah, there's a bunch of stupid shit going on but it will get turned around eventually. I hope.
9 (19.6%)
Yes all the bad things in options 1 and 2 are true, but that's how it always is. Business as usual.
14 (30.4%)
Beyond too many storms in too many teacups, things are going great. Sure, there's lots of whining, but things are great. Business as usual.
1 (2.2%)
Things are better than ever! Compared to the past, this is probably the best it's ever been and that's great! Let's hope the upwards trajectory continues!
0 (0%)
Uhm... I dunno?
3 (6.5%)

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Phillip V

#45
May 19, 2013, 02:42:03 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 19, 2013, 02:40:19 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 15, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
#1

the gay are rampaging through the streets, ha?

'A young man screamed antigay slurs at another man before killing him on Friday night in New York City.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/nyregion/killing-in-greenwich-village-looks-like-hate-crime-police-say.html

11B4V

#46
May 19, 2013, 02:43:27 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 19, 2013, 02:40:19 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 15, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
#1

the negroes are uppity and the gay are rampaging through the streets, ha?

Damn parades. :mad:
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The Brain

#47
May 19, 2013, 02:48:36 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 19, 2013, 02:42:03 AM

'A young man screamed antigay slurs at another man


The N-word? They are fairly anti-gay.
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Capetan Mihali

#48
May 19, 2013, 10:31:31 AM
[quote author=Phillip V link=topic=9838.msg584058#msg584058  New research is showing that the immigrant advantage wears off with the adoption of American behaviors — smoking, drinking, high-calorie diets and sedentary lifestyles.'
[/quote]

:hmm:  Didn't read the article, but feel pretty sure smoking is likely to be more common in the home country of most immigrants, at least for men.  But the Times has got to throw in smoking demonization for good measure...

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Neil

#49
May 19, 2013, 05:34:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2013, 09:04:23 AM
Well I look forward to it starting to work again sometime soon then.

I am not sure how it is supposed to work when they can keep most everything secret and we just have to hope for somebody to mess up or leak something to trigger a political scandal though.  I mean doesn't it working sort of depend on the people being informed?  Doesn't it working sort of depend on the Bill of Rights not being tossed aside by things like the Patriot Act on what looks to be a permanent basis?  If the things that make it work, and that it depends on, are not functioning how exactly is it's design intact so it can work?  Now these things may trigger a reaction that get it back to its normal ugly looking place but surely that is not inevitable no?
Is the Patriot Act especially unjust, historially speaking?
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#50
May 19, 2013, 05:38:02 PM
They read Valmy's library check out list. It was like the night of broken glass.
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CountDeMoney

#51
May 19, 2013, 05:41:15 PM
Patriot Act had a lot of silly stuff in it but also some valuable items that long needed to be addressed, like modernizing wire tap laws to new technology.

Razgovory

#52
May 19, 2013, 07:06:19 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 19, 2013, 02:42:03 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 19, 2013, 02:40:19 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 15, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
#1

the gay are rampaging through the streets, ha?

'A young man screamed antigay slurs at another man before killing him on Friday night in New York City.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/nyregion/killing-in-greenwich-village-looks-like-hate-crime-police-say.html

Damn liberal media!  He was just trying to convey the conservative viewpoint.
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Valmy

#53
May 20, 2013, 12:30:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 19, 2013, 05:34:41 PM
Is the Patriot Act especially unjust, historially speaking?

Where did I say anything about justice?  I was talking about the things that traditionally have made our system work.
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PDH

#54
May 20, 2013, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 20, 2013, 12:30:21 PM
I was talking about the things that traditionally have made our system work.

Cronyism and big money.
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Valmy

#55
May 20, 2013, 12:39:18 PM
Quote from: PDH on May 20, 2013, 12:38:30 PM
Cronyism and big money.

Well...I guess that makes every system work :P
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

DGuller

#56
May 20, 2013, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 19, 2013, 10:31:31 AM
Didn't read the article, but feel pretty sure smoking is likely to be more common in the home country of most immigrants, at least for men.  But the Times has got to throw in smoking demonization for good measure...
Yeah, I was going WTF on that.  US has been doing much better on cutting down on smoking than most other countries, and definitely better than countries supplying us immigrants.

garbon

#57
May 20, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 19, 2013, 02:42:03 AM
Quote from: Tamas on May 19, 2013, 02:40:19 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 15, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
#1

the gay are rampaging through the streets, ha?

'A young man screamed antigay slurs at another man before killing him on Friday night in New York City.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/nyregion/killing-in-greenwich-village-looks-like-hate-crime-police-say.html

Eek, that's pretty close to me though I didn't go out Friday.
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