2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Barrister]

there's also a very possible chance that trump will never realize he's lost until he sees the results. he's already starting to do mental gymnastics about polling numbers. I could see him eventually reject them completely and assume that on election day, people will support him. like a reverse situation to when people hoped the polls were wrong and trump wasn't going to win the primary.

Oh, that's quite possible too.

[Admiral Yi]

It would be even weirder if he dropped out *after* the convention, when he is the official Republican candidate.

I don't see him doing it; he's an absolute attention whore and he's getting 24 hour media coverage.  Plus he has an existing narrative of "a rigged system, the Washington establishment undermining him, and a media out to get him" that he can repeat forever.

[derspiess]

Maybe she just wants an American Peron.

Nah, she's anti-Peronista. 

[derspiess]

You guys better not jinx it.

Trump's campaign is fizzling out.  He's as good as done.

[Admiral Yi]

Trump's campaign is fizzling out.  He's as good as done.

Dushbag. 

[Valmy]

It would be even weirder if he dropped out *after* the convention, when he is the official Republican candidate.

I don't see him doing it; he's an absolute attention whore and he's getting 24 hour media coverage.  Plus he has an existing narrative of "a rigged system, the Washington establishment undermining him, and a media out to get him" that he can repeat forever.

Yeah if he loses he will be a martyr to the corrupt Liberal establishment blah blah.

[LaCroix]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/us/politics/donald-trump-fundraising-gop.html

Donald J. Trump's campaign schedule is being driven by his fund-raising needs, prompting him to appear in heavily Republican states like Georgia and Texas and diverting his attention from battlegrounds where Hillary Clinton is spending her time.

...

At this point in the presidential cycle in 2012, Mr. Romney was raising more than $1 million a day for himself and the party . There is no indication that Mr. Trump is approaching that pace.

Moreover, while Mr. Trump lent his campaign more than $43 million in the primaries, he has shown little inclination to self-finance his general election campaign in a large-scale way. Yet many Republican fund-raisers have openly questioned why they would donate their money to a candidate who has claimed a net worth of $10 billion. 

clinton -- $288 million raised
trump -- $60 million
(numbers are a month old)

[FunkMonk]

I wonder how the GOP will repair itself next year after Trump has completely ruined their brand.

[derspiess]

They'll get a natural rebound from Hillary's terrible, corrupt presidency.

[FunkMonk]

Perhaps. It ought to be interesting for them if Hillary fails spectacularly. Maybe there's a recession or whatever.  Or if she actually does a decent job, who steps up among the Republicans?

I'm hoping they will finally get their shit together after they hit rock bottom this year. I kind of miss voting Republican. 

[derspiess]

Maybe hitting rock bottom is what the party needs.

[Admiral Yi]

I wonder how the GOP will repair itself next year after Trump has completely ruined their brand.

Based on principled opposition to Trump and the argument that Trump primary voters are not part of the traditional Republican base.

[Valmy]

They'll get a natural rebound from Hillary's terrible, corrupt presidency.

Now now there have been many decent corrupt presidents. Besides how much damage could she actually do? She is pretty mainstream and Congress will stonewall her just like Obama.

[Valmy]

Maybe hitting rock bottom is what the party needs.

Well I have hoped that would turn around the Democrats a couple times. No luck yet. Maybe the Republicans will do it but they are still really powerful.

[Phillip V]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/us/politics/donald-trump-fundraising-gop.html

Donald J. Trump's campaign schedule is being driven by his fund-raising needs, prompting him to appear in heavily Republican states like Georgia and Texas and diverting his attention from battlegrounds where Hillary Clinton is spending her time.

...

At this point in the presidential cycle in 2012, Mr. Romney was raising more than $1 million a day for himself and the party . There is no indication that Mr. Trump is approaching that pace.

Moreover, while Mr. Trump lent his campaign more than $43 million in the primaries, he has shown little inclination to self-finance his general election campaign in a large-scale way. Yet many Republican fund-raisers have openly questioned why they would donate their money to a candidate who has claimed a net worth of $10 billion. 

clinton -- $288 million raised
trump -- $60 million
(numbers are a month old)

Obama destroyed Romney in fundraising.  IIRC, Obama had 40% more direct money than Romney.

I have high doubts that Trump is going to get people to give him the $1 billion he needs for the general election.