2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Capetan Mihali]

And everyone knows Sanders had a big hand in passing those, so I'm tossing in my sleep at night, Clinton Hack.

Selective Justice Warrior.

  That's good.

[Eddie Teach]

Non-drivers aren't really citizens, anyway.

[jimmy olsen]

Read this one while humming the Jaws theme to myself. 

Donald Trump tops Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, according to a new Fox News Poll that also finds majorities of voters feel both frontrunners lack strong moral values and will say anything to get elected.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/18/fox-news-poll-trump-tops-clinton-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html

Anyone think the voter turnout is going to beat the 54.9% we had in the last election?  Or even the 50.3% we had in 2000? (A figure which tbe Nader-killed-Gore's-presidency sour grapes crowd should contemplate.)

On the contrary, I expect to have hate voting driving turnout way up as people rush to vote against Trump or Clinton. We could break 60%.

[CountDeMoney]

On the contrary, I expect to have hate voting driving turnout way up as people rush to vote against Trump or Clinton. We could break 60%.

You're smoking your socks, kid.  The True Believers of the GOP are staying home, as are those chronically afflicted with Clinton Fatigue.  The rest are going to be forced to stay home, what with civil rights being optional now.  We're not going to crack 35% this time around. 

[Capetan Mihali]

On the contrary, I expect to have hate voting driving turnout way up as people rush to vote against Trump or Clinton. We could break 60%.

You think a socialist Sanders supporter is going to "hate vote" Trump against Clinton?  No way.  And do you understand how hated Hillary is among Republicans?  No way they are going to "hate vote" Clinton to punish Trump for flipping the GOP board game off the table.

All those people are staying home, or maybe voting write-ins/third-parties.

[CountDeMoney]

I am sure the Naderyite smugness will be even more enjoyable for the Sandernistas during The Donald's first term than it was during Dubya's first couple years in office.   FEEL THE SMUG

[lustindarkness]

I think third party candidates will get plenty of votes this election.

[Capetan Mihali]

I am sure the Naderyite smugness will be even more enjoyable for the Sandernistas during The Donald's first term than it was during Dubya's first couple years in office.   FEEL THE SMUG

Maybe, I don't know, convince some more people that Hillary "Goldman" Clinton is worth voting for?

[Eddie Teach]

I am sure the Naderyite smugness will be even more enjoyable for the Sandernistas during The Donald's first term than it was during Dubya's first couple years in office.   FEEL THE SMUG

Except Sanders will be campaigning for Clinton rather than running against her.

[Zoupa]

CdM already has his little story and he's gonna stick to it. No need to debate it guys.

Somehow, it's gonna be Sanders' fault if his terrible candidate loses 

[derspiess]

and then of course my affluent urban West Virginia Bros. 

You mean the ones that are planning to vote for Trump, or the other half? 

[Jaron]

[Martinus]

I'm really not sure how big the bloc of voters he might lose on free trade is. Typically, seems most "economic conservatives" are motivated mostly by taxes. 

The guy wants to go back to 16th century Dutch mercantilism.  I don't see how you get any more "economic conservative" than that.

He could support feudalism. That's Catholic fahdiz's style economic conservative.

[Martinus]

Ralph Nader: Trump's Done Some Good, Clinton's Winning By 'Dictatorship'

He heaps praise on Bernie Sanders, but won't reveal how he'll vote in November.

By David Catanese | Senior Politics Writer May 13, 2016, at 1:00 p.m.

Ralph Nader, the former Green Party presidential candidate and lifelong consumer activist, says Donald Trump's dizzying presidential candidacy hasn't been all bad, while Hillary Clinton is winning the Democratic nomination by "dictatorship."

And though he has heaps of praise for Bernie Sanders, Nader still won't say whom he voted for in the 2016 primary or which candidate he plans to cast a ballot for come November. He'd actually prefer there was an option for "none of the above."

"It gives people a voice to say, 'No, we don't like anybody on the ballot,'" the 82-year-old Nader says.

But that doesn't mean the five-time presidential candidate isn't still trying to influence the debate. Beginning May 23, Nader is hosting a four-day event in Washington called "Breaking Through Power," which is designed to encourage citizens to organize and bring light to issues he sees as being largely ignored by elected officials and the media, like preventable hospital deaths, corporate crime and the Pentagon's budget.

"The media has to have a higher estimate of its own significance and scour the country for what's on people's minds in terms of reforms and redirections that never get put in the election debates," he says.

A lifelong critic of the mainstream media, Nader sees this election season as bringing out its worst instincts, goading viewers into "that kind of vacuous, wild, charge-counter-charge, slur-and-slander that brings them high ratings and high advertising rates."

But in an interview with U.S. News, Nader expressed more positive thoughts about Trump's candidacy than Clinton's.

The liberal activist says Trump has brought some important issues to the fore.

"He's questioned the trade agreements. He's done some challenging of Wall Street – I don't know how authentic that is. He said he's against the carried interest racket, for hedge funds. He's funded himself and therefore attacked special interest money, which is very important," Nader says. "But he's lowered the level of political debate to unheard-of depths of salacious, slanderous and vacuousness, garnished with massive self-boosterism and repetition."

And now it begins.

[Jaron]

Oh please. Nader isn't worth listening to. I'd rather listen to Zoupa's opinions of US politics than Nader's.

On the topic though Trump made his name in the primary about not taking any donor money. Now that he is pivoting to the general he's backed off that and accepted donations.

The fun part about Bernie is there is no way he can fund a general election run without doing the same. If he thinks hes going to run a national election on 27 dollar donations the man is more delusional than I thought.