2016 elections - because it's never too early

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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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CountDeMoney

Rudy Giuliani's descent into Hillacidal madness continues.

QuoteGiuliani: Trump 'better for the United States than a woman'
By Rebecca Morin
Politico
10/02/16 05:26 PM EDT

Donald Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani on Sunday suggested that a man such as Donald Trump would be a better president "than a woman."

"Don't you think a man who has this kind of economic genius is a lot better for the United States than a woman, and the only thing she's ever produced is a lot of work for the FBI checking out her emails," the former New York City mayor said on ABC's "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos.

Giuliani's statements come on the heels of a week during which the Republican nominee has been criticized by Hillary Clinton's campaign for comments he has made about women. At Monday's debate, Clinton said Trump had insulted former Miss Universe Alicia Machado by calling her "Miss Piggy." Trump and Giuliani both criticized Machado and tried to justify Trump's comments about how much weight Machado had gained.

Giuliani told Stephanopoulos that Clinton was "programmed" to bring up Machado's story.

"Then she mentioned the woman's name, the model's name, and then she made it appear as if [moderator] Lester Holt had brought it up. She had obviously been programmed to bring that up," Giuliani said.

In addition, the Trump surrogate also said that if Clinton is going to attack Trump on how he "deals with women," the GOP nominee's campaign will discuss how the former secretary of state "deals with women."

"We have to respond by how she deals with women, which is to take money from governments that kill women, take money from governments that stone women, take money from governments that have women who can't drive cars," he said. "Not just money, millions and tens of millions of dollars from countries in which women are treated like property and killed when they get raped."

"And so now, basically, it's 'Don't lecture me, Hillary, on feminism, because you're a phony.'"

The Trump and Clinton campaigns both released ads targeting women this past week.



QuoteRudy Giuliani, Continuing Rebuke of Hillary Clinton, Says 'Everybody' Commits Infidelity
By FARAH STOCKMAN
New York Times
OCT. 2, 2016

Rudolph W. Giuliani, a former New York mayor and an ally of Donald J. Trump's, suggested on Sunday that "everybody" commits infidelity, setting off a backlash on Twitter.

The remark came during an exchange on NBC's "Meet the Press," after Chuck Todd, the show's host, asked Mr. Giuliani whether he was "the right person" to bring up former President Bill Clinton's infidelities in this heated campaign.

"You have your own infidelities, sir," Mr. Todd said.

"Everybody does," Mr. Giuliani responded. "You know, I'm a Roman Catholic and I confess those things to my priest."

The reaction from Twitter users was swift and unforgiving.

"No Rudy — not everyone does," wrote Diana Hess, a self-described Hillary Clinton supporter.

"Um, I've been married for almost 20 years. No infidelities," wrote John Bielski, whose Twitter account describes him as a labor lawyer in Philadelphia. Mr. Bielski, whose Twitter profile says he loves his wife and daughters more than his favorite sports teams, went on to ask, "Am I doing marriage wrong?" :lol:

Mr. Trump hinted last week after the first presidential debate — in which Mrs. Clinton criticized him for shaming a Miss Universe winner 20 years ago for gaining weight — that he would open a line of attack on Mr. Clinton's infidelities.

Mr. Giuliani, one of Mr. Trump's top surrogates, has repeatedly attacked Mrs. Clinton for her defense of her husband during the Monica Lewinsky scandal in the 1990s and her attempts to discredit women who accused her husband of sexual assault.

"After being married to Bill Clinton for 20 years, if you didn't know the moment Monica Lewinsky said Bill Clinton violated her," Mr. Giuliani told Elite Daily after the debate, "then you're too stupid to be president."

Mr. Trump has also raised the issue of Mrs. Clinton's marriage in recent days. At a rally on Saturday in Manheim, Pa., he asserted that Mrs. Clinton has no loyalties to anyone but her donors.

"I don't even think she's loyal to Bill, if you want to know the truth," he told the audience. "And really, folks, really, why should she be, right?"

But on Sunday, the line of attack showed signs of backfiring.

"Just bizarre," Glenn Greenwald, a journalist, lawyer and founder of The Intercept, a news media site he began in 2013, wrote on Twitter. "Trump & Giuliani have 6 wives between them & are sermonizing about marriage to the Clintons, who have been married 41 years."

Others highlighted the illogic of Mr. Giuliani's assertion that "everybody" cheats. If everybody cheats, then why attack Mr. Clinton for it?

Mr. Giuliani's remarks on "Meet the Press" aired at 10:30 a.m. Eastern time.

By 11:30 a.m., a clip of the exchange had been shared more than 600 times.

Many Twitter users wrote that the Republican Party has drifted from its conservative social values.

Jeet Heer, a senior editor at The New Republic, wrote: "GOP 2004: Gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of wedding vows! GOP 2016: Adultery for all!"

In an interview after the show, Mr. Giuliani said he was speaking not just of marital infidelity, but about "all forms of infidelity, which there are many."

"By infidelities, I don't just mean marital. People lie. People cheat. People misrepresent. People commit sins," he said. "The point that I was trying to make was, as far as I can tell, among human beings, there are very few that don't have some."

When asked why, if all people commit sins, he felt that raising the issue of Mr. Clinton's infidelity is fair game, he said: "I'm not attacking the Clintons. I'm attacking Hillary."

He made clear that the decision to resurrect the issue of Mr. Clinton's affairs — and Mrs. Clinton's attacks on the credibility of women who made claims of sexual impropriety — is linked to her raising Mr. Trump's treatment of a former Miss Universe, Alicia Machado, in the final moments of the debate.

"If she would like to stop attacking on things that happened 20 years ago, he'll stop attacking things that happened 20 years ago," Mr. Giuliani said.

He added, "I don't know if it is a winning or losing strategy, but if you get attacked, you have to defend yourself."

Yet the idea of excusing Mr. Clinton's infidelity, while attacking Mrs. Clinton's response it, struck some women as hypocritical.

"I'm no Hillary fan, believe me," said Paula Cullen of Spokane, Wash., who describes herself on her Twitter account as a "former feminist." "But to dismiss the original immoral behavior as, 'Well, everybody does it,' but make an issue of her reaction is a sign that we've lost our moral compass."

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

DGuller

It seems like it's impossible to earnestly support Trump without blowing a gasket or two in the brain.  The level of cognitive dissonance required for such a feat must be driving intracranial pressure sky high.

Martinus

Will Tim singlehandedly cause victory for Trump?

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Martinus on October 04, 2016, 12:42:41 AM
Will Tim singlehandedly cause victory for Trump?

If I was going to vote for Trump because of Languish, it would be to see Berkut's head explode.  :menace:
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point


jimmy olsen

He's probably going to win Ohio, even if Clinton wins the popular vote by a good 4-5%
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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1 Karma Chameleon point

celedhring

I'm surprised to see Virginia so solidly blue, on the other hand.

Legbiter

Quote from: Martinus on October 03, 2016, 01:49:24 PM
Seriously, this is really retarded. So a landlord is expected to run background checks on any institution he rents premises to?

Stories like this (and people who post them) confound me. Are they really so stupid or so dishonest?

Worse, these Soviet levels of propaganda and derangement from formerly reputable news orgs are counterproductive.

Posted using 100% recycled electrons.

FunkMonk

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.