2016 elections - because it's never too early

Started by merithyn, May 09, 2013, 07:37:45 AM

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Barrister

Michigan is still early voting, and it has a lot of urban and college educated voters still to come.
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katmai

She needs to win Michigan, Pennsylvania and one of NH or Nevada.
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Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on November 08, 2016, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 08, 2016, 10:35:39 PM
So I'm going to hang on to the Virginia example for awhile and not get too worried about early results in Wisconsin and Michigan and NH.

It's very early, but Clinton leading in Iowa with 5% reporting. :)
Clinton still has some chance to win the presidency, yes.  But she has no chance of getting a mandate, or even a concession of the legitimacy of her win.  We're down to the two most disastrous outcomes.

At this point I will settle for a dissapointing win.
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alfred russel

Something to keep an eye on is Arizona. It is a big state that was expected to go to Trump but exit polls and early returns have been close.

If Clinton somehow wins there, it almost offsets a big upset like in Michigan.
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Oexmelin

Exit polls have been shit at predicting outcome though. And college educated workers seem to have stayed home.
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Berkut

Which is worse - Trump being president, or people now saying how brilliant Trump apparently was for being right all along?
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Oexmelin

Quote from: mongers on November 08, 2016, 10:38:53 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on November 08, 2016, 10:35:49 PM
Well, considering that Brexit unleashed a number of violent incident from people who felt authorized, and vindicated, I worry about the aftermath of the Trump presidency. Nothing in his campaign, or from his supporters, indicate they will be decent winners. Or losers.

I think that goes without saying, the question is whether he can be bothered to try and rein-in his flag-bearers?

I don't think he is, for displays of strength magnifies his ego.
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DGuller

Quote from: Berkut on November 08, 2016, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: DGuller on November 08, 2016, 10:37:31 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 08, 2016, 10:35:39 PM
So I'm going to hang on to the Virginia example for awhile and not get too worried about early results in Wisconsin and Michigan and NH.

It's very early, but Clinton leading in Iowa with 5% reporting. :)
Clinton still has some chance to win the presidency, yes.  But she has no chance of getting a mandate, or even a concession of the legitimacy of her win.  We're down to the two most disastrous outcomes.

At this point I will settle for a dissapointing win.
Honestly, I don't know which one is worse.  Maybe with Republicans sweeping the presidency, both houses, and now the Supreme Court, we may achieve the seemingly impossible:  a demonstration of what a disaster contemporary GOP policies are to the extent that they're impossible to attribute to anything else other than GOP policies.  A narrow Clinton win (which won't even give her a Supreme Court nomination) will just further ensnare our country in a frozen civil war conflict.

Josephus

Quote from: Barrister on November 08, 2016, 10:35:39 PM
So I'm going to hang on to the Virginia example for awhile and not get too worried about early results in Wisconsin and Michigan and NH.

It's very early, but Clinton leading in Iowa with 5% reporting. :)
For once I hope youre right.
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mongers

Quote from: Oexmelin on November 08, 2016, 10:43:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on November 08, 2016, 10:38:53 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on November 08, 2016, 10:35:49 PM
Well, considering that Brexit unleashed a number of violent incident from people who felt authorized, and vindicated, I worry about the aftermath of the Trump presidency. Nothing in his campaign, or from his supporters, indicate they will be decent winners. Or losers.

I think that goes without saying, the question is whether he can be bothered to try and rein-in his flag-bearers?

I don't think he is, for displays of strength magnifies his ego.

Yeah, do you think they'll be insensitive enough to have a nightime torchlite procession.
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CountDeMoney

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Jaron on November 08, 2016, 10:35:06 PM
Lord in Heaven, please have mercy upon us and deliver us from a Trump presidency.

The guy God told you to vote for?
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Grallon

Is this clown actually winning?  I can't believe it!



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Barrister

Quote from: Josephus on November 08, 2016, 10:44:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on November 08, 2016, 10:35:39 PM
So I'm going to hang on to the Virginia example for awhile and not get too worried about early results in Wisconsin and Michigan and NH.

It's very early, but Clinton leading in Iowa with 5% reporting. :)
For once I hope youre right.

Oh let's be clear I'm making no predictions here. -_-

fivethirtyeight.com is giving Clinton a 50% chance of winning, and Trump a 48% chance (2% no EC winner).
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mongers

Quote from: Grallon on November 08, 2016, 10:47:22 PM
Is this clown actually winning?  I can't believe it!



G.

Well his chearleaders were Marty and Legbiter.
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