2016 elections - because it's never too early

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Legbiter

Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 08, 2016, 07:27:58 AM
The list is growing

Gary Herbert (Governor of Utah) Withdrawal of his endorsement of Trump
Jon Huntsman (Former Governor of Utah) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Mark Kirk (Senator from Illinois) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Mike Lee (Senator from Utah) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Jason Chaffetz (Representative from Utah's 3rd Congressional District) Withdrawal of his endorsement of Trump
Mike Coffman(Representative from Colorado's 6th Congressional District) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Barbara Comstock (Representative from Virginia's 10th Congressional District) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race

This is a pretty neat foreshadow of what will happen in a Trump win, a semi-official "true conservative" GOP opposition faction will rise.
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Legbiter

Quote from: 11B4V on October 08, 2016, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on October 08, 2016, 12:34:53 PM
I bet if we find the Trump non apology video on Facebook all the Trump supporters are defending him.

Yes. Rationalized and minimized.

Aye.

Clinton just took the fight to Trump's home field.  :hmm:
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FunkMonk

RNC temporarily halting its main program to campaign for Trump

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/rnc-halts-all-victory-project-work-for-trump-229363

Reminder that Trump has almost no campaign apparatus of his own. He's relying entirely on the RNC

:hmm: :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:
Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

CountDeMoney

QuoteWashington Post
Opinion
The right says Hillary Clinton is responsible for her husband. Why isn't Melania Trump?
Alyssa Rosenberg October 7 at 5:53 PM

Imagine a married man in public life was caught on tape talking about his failed attempt to seduce a married woman. Imagine that man continued by talking about that woman's "big phony tits," how his star power meant that he could just walk up to any woman he wanted and kiss her, and how his go-to move was grabbing women by their genitals. After you got over your rolling wave of nausea, imagine that this man was also on the record as saying that a woman, let's say a rival of his in business, should be held responsible for her own husband's extramarital sexual behavior. You'd be disgusted, right?

But this is 2016. That man is Donald Trump, and he actually did get filmed saying those things on a bus with then-"Access Hollywood" star Billy Bush in 2005. And given that Trump's go-to move on the campaign trail this season has been to suggest that his rival for the presidency of the United States, Hillary Clinton, is somehow responsible for her husband Bill's repeated betrayals, are we now supposed to ask why Melania Trump didn't do a better job of acting as her husband's keeper?

Oh, except that Trump is also filmed on that same tape hugging soap opera actress Arianne Zucker and declaring "Melania said this was okay."

A couple of weeks ago, I wrote that certain leading Republicans, including Trump and his close adviser Rudy Giuliani, who declared Hillary Clinton too stupid to be president for the sin of retaining some faith in her husband, were mounting an astonishing display of public contempt for American women. I didn't need more evidence to be convinced that these men's attitudes toward women are ugly and hateful. But this tape of Trump, published by my colleague David Fahrenthold, certainly adds a new dimension to this nastiness.

The message is clear, if contradictory. Cool wives give their husbands passes. Bad wives fail to restrain their husbands' wandering hands and other body parts, but they also immediately acknowledge their husbands are cheating, and ... what? I've never been clear on this part of the equation. Are the cheated-upon supposed to shut up about it so their husbands can have their fun? Get out of the way without a fight so their husbands can marry someone younger and hotter and in turn be discarded for someone else? Cast some sort of sorcery over the country so their own existences are forgotten, and their cheating husbands can move forward as paragons of virtue?

Like everything else about Trump's campaign, this tendency to blame women for failing to restrain their husbands, or failing to give their husbands license to do whatever they want, or both simultaneously, somehow, is spectacularly self-interested. Donald Trump wants to live in a world where Hillary Clinton is a moral failure for staying in her marriage, but he can arrogantly describe behavior that most decent people would consider harassment and assault, leave his marriages, repeatedly insult woman and be considered a leader and an exemplar.

Misogyny isn't just about keeping women down. It's about creating special zones of reality and morality that allow men to do whatever they want, without consequences to them, and without regard for anyone else.

Women shouldn't be asked to restrain their husbands in the absence of those men having functioning consciences and the ability to control themselves. But we all have a powerful responsibility to keep Donald Trump as far as possible from the White House.

katmai

Quote from: garbon on October 08, 2016, 09:28:00 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 08, 2016, 07:27:58 AM
The list is growing

Gary Herbert (Governor of Utah) Withdrawal of his endorsement of Trump
Jon Huntsman (Former Governor of Utah) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Mark Kirk (Senator from Illinois) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Mike Lee (Senator from Utah) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Jason Chaffetz (Representative from Utah's 3rd Congressional District) Withdrawal of his endorsement of Trump
Mike Coffman(Representative from Colorado's 6th Congressional District) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race
Barbara Comstock (Representative from Virginia's 10th Congressional District) Calling for Trump to withdraw from the race

Ben Sasse now too.
add both sitting Alaska GOP senators Sullivan and Murkowski to the list.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

DGuller

NOW the cowards are suddenly finding outrage, and finding safety in numbers. Day late, and a dollar short.

Kleves

Quote from: DGuller on October 08, 2016, 02:36:18 PM
NOW the cowards are suddenly finding outrage, and finding safety in numbers. Day late, and a dollar short.
Admiral Darlan's spirit lives on in the Vichy Republicans.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: DGuller on October 08, 2016, 02:36:18 PM
NOW the cowards are suddenly finding outrage, and finding safety in numbers. Day late, and a dollar short.

It is kinda funny that, considering everything he's said and done over the last year, it's this one they get all bent out of shape over?  The most obvious "well, yeah, we already kinda knew that" of all the Trump character flaws? The one that you could have filed under "D" for "Duh" since the 1980s, from Bloom County to the New York Post to Spy magazine?

Rampant and outspoken open racism on a level not seen since the 1800s without burning crosses? Meh.
A rejection of the modern economy for a return to 17th Dutch mercantilism? Shrug.
Outright fabrications of non-truths on a daily basis? Just Donald being Donald.
A 3rd grader's grasp of foreign policy straight out of Risk and PlayStation?  Obama's destroyed America, you know.
An emotional temperament that makes an autistic chimp on crystal meth seem more level? He's a winner.
Openly suggesting the assassination of his political opponent?  That's not what I heard.
"You know...money can score pussy--and I love pussy." ZOMG ABSULOOTELY APPALLING  DUMP TEH TRUMP

What a group.



alfred russel

I just listened to the tape. THIS is what people turn on Trump for? It seems rather innocuous to be a major scandal - he was just bullshitting. I really doubt a elderly obese man is physically able to perform the way he boasts anyway.
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Syt

That's what people thought of Jimmy Saville, too.  :P
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LaCroix

Quote from: alfred russel on October 08, 2016, 03:17:30 PM
I just listened to the tape. THIS is what people turn on Trump for? It seems rather innocuous to be a major scandal - he was just bullshitting. I really doubt a elderly obese man is physically able to perform the way he boasts anyway.

like jacob said, this goes against republican values in the worst way.

more importantly is how kevin cramer of north dakota will now defend his early support of trump

Martinus

Quote from: alfred russel on October 08, 2016, 03:17:30 PM
I just listened to the tape. THIS is what people turn on Trump for? It seems rather innocuous to be a major scandal - he was just bullshitting. I really doubt a elderly obese man is physically able to perform the way he boasts anyway.

Yeah, it's kinda funny. But then it's a spectacular shitstorm, and I decided to enjoy the Fall of the House of GOP, if I can't get the tears of CdM, Jacob and Berkut.  :lol: