2016 elections - because it's never too early

[Martinus]

Kind of shocked I didn't see this mentioned on Languish: 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/23/politics/terry-mcauliffe-fbi-doj-federal-investigation-campaign-contributions/

No point - the pro-Clinton crowd here is fanatical.

[frunk]

No.  She will get the nomination-- I won't argue that point.

Well, let me know when you want to reveal what the delusion is.

[Valmy]

Not really. This is a virulently anti-establishment campaign. She should be getting destroyed. If she splits the rest of the primaries that is a decisive win.

In your mind.  If she can only manage to split the rest with Bernie, that ought to embolden Bernie's supporters.  You don't want her just "surviving" so she limps into the convention. 

A decisive win would be for her to win the rest decisively.

A decisive win in the delegate count. I just do not feel the winds are blowing her way. Even if she wins this election I think the insurgents are going to dominate the political landscape for a bit.

[Valmy]

No point - the pro-Clinton crowd here is fanatical.

Sorry I do not endorse her on a personal level. But the other two guys are not acceptable to me for policy reasons. Or is wanting certain policies and supporting candidates for that reason a sign of fanaticism in your 'LOLZ INTERNET BULLSHIT' worldview?

[frunk]

Sorry I do not endorse her on a personal level. But the other two guys are not acceptable to me.

FANATIC!

[Valmy]

You Woman Cardholders are delusional.

Am I? You are producing all these news articles that are not exactly indicating a massive title wave of good feeling here

[derspiess]

No.  She will get the nomination-- I won't argue that point.

Well, let me know when you want to reveal what the delusion is.

That splitting CA & other races will give her a decisive victory.  She'll win the nom, but to me it wouldn't be decisive unless she steamrolls Bernie in the remaining contests.

[Valmy]

No.  She will get the nomination-- I won't argue that point.

Well, let me know when you want to reveal what the delusion is.

That splitting CA & other races will give her a decisive victory.  She'll win the nom, but to me it wouldn't be decisive unless she steamrolls Bernie in the remaining contests.

I explained what I meant. I meant in terms of the delegate count.

[frunk]

That splitting CA & other races will give her a decisive victory.  She'll win the nom, but to me it wouldn't be decisive unless she steamrolls Bernie in the remaining contests.

I'm not sure what the material difference between victory and decisive victory is at this point, and why it should matter 5 months from now.   I wouldn't put any faith in primary results after one candidate has gotten a lock.  People's voting choices change considerably in those situations.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm not sure what the material difference between victory and decisive victory is at this point

3 more victory points for decisive.

[derspiess]

That splitting CA & other races will give her a decisive victory.  She'll win the nom, but to me it wouldn't be decisive unless she steamrolls Bernie in the remaining contests.

I'm not sure what the material difference between victory and decisive victory is at this point, and why it should matter 5 months from now.   I wouldn't put any faith in primary results after one candidate has gotten a lock.  People's voting choices change considerably in those situations.

I'm thinking more about  the time between now and the end of the convention.  I would think a big finish by Hillary would take some wind out of the Bernie Bros' sails & might make for a smoother time for her thru the convention.  But if Bernie scores some moral victories, then the Bros might not go away as easily.

But who knows?  Not long ago, people here were certain Trump would lack the votes to secure the nomination and that the GOP convention would be chaos.

[DGuller]

Oops.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/05/26/sen-orrin-hatch-reacts-to-meeting-with-merrick-garland-before-it-occurs/

[Jaron]

Wow really Martinus?

Clinton group is fanatical?

At least no one is referring to her as GOD-EMPEROR. You Trump fanbois are truly a cult.

[CountDeMoney]

At least no one is referring to her as GOD-EMPEROR.

That's because it would be technically incorrect, no matter how much the cunthaters think she has a cock.

[Phillip V]

Not really. This is a virulently anti-establishment campaign. She should be getting destroyed. If she splits the rest of the primaries that is a decisive win.

In your mind.  If she can only manage to split the rest with Bernie, that ought to embolden Bernie's supporters.  You don't want her just "surviving" so she limps into the convention. 

A decisive win would be for her to win the rest decisively.

These are the last primaries.  She doesn't need a decisive win - any old win would do.

SHe's in kind of a tough spot.  Sanders is all but mathematically eliminated.  Clinton doesn't want to push hard against Sanders (doesn't want to alienate his supporters), and doesn't want to spend a lot of $$$ if she doesn't have to.  But that gives Sanders some room to attack her without being attacked back.

Both Sanders and Clinton are now spending money on expensive California television advertising after previously planning not to do so.  Huge waste of money for the Democrats.