Pope condemns sweatshops and unemployment in May Day message

[Admiral Yi]

He is in fact saying that any unemployment at all is an injustice.

"This is a burden on our conscience, because when society is organized in such a way that not everyone has the opportunity to work, to be anointed with the dignity of work, then there is something wrong with that society," he said.

[crazy canuck]

He is in fact saying that any unemployment at all is an injustice.

"This is a burden on our conscience, because when society is organized in such a way that not everyone has the opportunity to work, to be anointed with the dignity of work, then there is something wrong with that society," he said.

No, everyone being given an opportunity to succeed is just a restatement of the American Dream n'est pas?

[The Brain]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

[HVC]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

boyscouts

[CountDeMoney]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

What, do you and Marty work 12-on, 12-off shifts or something?

[derspiess]

I'm sorta with Yi on this, but it's not like this is the first time a figure from some church made unreasonable and/or contradictory exhortations on society.  And I still like this Pope, as far as Catholics go.

[The Brain]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

boyscouts

Yeah OK, if you think that's dignity. Do boy scout leaders even wear dresses?

[CountDeMoney]

I'm sorta with Yi on this, but it's not like this is the first time a figure from some church made unreasonable and/or contradictory exhortations on society.  And I still like this Pope, as far as Catholics go.

How is it unreasonable and/or contradictory?

[Sheilbh]

Not quite. I think 'opportunity to work' is relevant.

But of course that's what he's saying. Catholic social teaching is explicit that an ordered society would have full employment, ours is a disordered society and in such a way that is wrong. Unemployment undermines a just society. More importantly, from a Catholic perspective, man is 'called to work'. It's a reminder that we are made in the image of God - through work we create and work is more than simply sustaining life (which is bestial). So unemployment is a sign of a society gone wrong but also assaults the dignity and spirit of man.

So, from a Catholic view, if a society were ordered then the opportunity to work would be available to all. Some individuals, as in all cases, may reject their own purpose - which in part was what JPII called subjective work - but that wouldn't be an indication of society being wrong.

JPII again:
'In view of this situation we must first of all recall a principle that has always been taught by the Church: the principle of the priority of labour over capital. This principle directly concerns the process of production: in this process labour is always a primary efficient cause, while capital, the whole collection of means of production, remains a mere instrument or instrumental cause.
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The role of the agents included under the title of indirect employer is to act against unemployment, which in all cases is an evil, and which, when it reaches a certain level, can become a real social disaster.'

[The Brain]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

What, do you and Marty work 12-on, 12-off shifts or something?

That's a lie.

[HVC]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

boyscouts

Yeah OK, if you think that's dignity. Do boy scout leaders even wear dresses?

does in private count?

[Sheilbh]

but it's not like this is the first time a figure from some church made unreasonable and/or contradictory exhortations on society. 

Surely that's the job of the Church? Certainly of a man who has the title 'Vicar of Christ'

[crazy canuck]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

What, do you and Marty work 12-on, 12-off shifts or something?

That's a lie.

Yep, you work overlapping shifts.

[The Brain]

The Catholic Church certainly does its part, no one else would hire thousands of active pedophiles and give them the dignity of work.

boyscouts

Yeah OK, if you think that's dignity. Do boy scout leaders even wear dresses?

does in private count?

No. It does not.

[CountDeMoney]

Good effort, Shiv.  But you're not going to sway these protestant Free Marketeer Republicans.