Pope condemns sweatshops and unemployment in May Day message

[The Brain]

The Pope has taken a vow that forbids him from having sex with adults and you talk about sacrifice?

[Razgovory]

Being wealthy isn't really enough of a reason for giving people a job, that would be a bit silly, you have to actually be an employer in a position to do something too.

Why is that?  What's preventing the Vatican from using its money to start up a company and hire a bunch of people at a loss of $10 a person?

They do.  They are called Catholic Schools, Churches and Charities.

[Admiral Yi]

They do.  They are called Catholic Schools, Churches and Charities.

So nothing stopping them from hiring some more.

[Razgovory]

Is that your way of saying the Pope does indeed "Walk the Walk".

[The Minsky Moment]

I'm saying that if a sacrifice should be made for the common good it should be made by all of us and not just by "those guys over there."

So you are saying what the Pope is saying. 

[Eddie Teach]

I am not.  I'm saying that if a sacrifice should be made for the common good it should be made by all of us and not just by "those guys over there."

Welfare > charity

[MadImmortalMan]

It's not charity for one dude to decide another dude should give stuff to a third dude.

[Admiral Yi]

So you are saying what the Pope is saying.

I am not.  The Pope has done nothing to demonstrate he believes this proscription applies to the Catholic Church.

[Eddie Teach]

It's not charity for one dude to decide another dude should give stuff to a third dude.

If other dude decides to give stuff, it's charity. If he doesn't, nothing gets given. Il Papa is not his master.

[Tamas]

It's not charity for one dude to decide another dude should give stuff to a third dude.

If other dude decides to give stuff, it's charity. If he doesn't, nothing gets given. Il Papa is not his master.

he meant welfare

[Eddie Teach]

I didn't say it was charity. I said it was better.

[crazy canuck]

Well thats...not a ringing endorsement of doing good.
What if  your company was earning a million a year and you only lost $10 on account of having this extra person?
Considering you're a millionaire would you really balk at spending $10 to make a good guy (assume you wouldn't hire a dick) 's life significantly better? Maybe he has a family too. And this is charity you can actually see the effects of in your home country, not like throwing $10 a month at some far away good cause, if others followed the same thinking then the unemployment rate would drop and the country and your life would be better.

How many companies can you name that are owned by one guy?

I know of a lot of companies that have one shareholder. I know of even more where one person is the majority shareholder.

[The Minsky Moment]

So you are saying what the Pope is saying.

I am not.  The Pope has done nothing to demonstrate he believes this proscription applies to the Catholic Church.

The Church employs hundreds of thousands of people and its hiring and firing decisions are completely unrelated to any profit motive, so clearly it is acting in conformity with the Pope's dictum.
Your claim depends entirely on a stubborn misreading of the what the Pope actually said. 

[Admiral Yi]

The Church employs hundreds of thousands of people and its hiring and firing decisions are completely unrelated to any profit motive, so clearly it is acting in conformity with the Pope's dictum.
Your claim depends entirely on a stubborn misreading of the what the Pope actually said.

I was responding to Squeeze, who said it's an obligation of the wealthy.

Your interpretation of course means that the Pope's comments are an attack on profit, which is return on capital, which is deferred consumption. Which gets us back to misguided class warfare and an unintended attack on people saving for retirement.

[Admiral Yi]

I know of a lot of companies that have one shareholder. I know of even more where one person is the majority shareholder.

So do I.  But to hear Squeeze talk, company is synonymous with rich guy.