What I Learned From Gay Sex: Misogyny and Homophobia

Started by garbon, April 18, 2013, 09:36:15 AM

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Quote from: Ideologue on April 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
Nevertheless, I'm not sure I buy that there is this critical mass of gay men who demand non-femmy partners.  If that were the case, how are all the shockingly twinky gay men I've met getting laid?  I mean, I can practically guarantee that if I were gay, I'd probably still want to fuck skinny people that were shorter than me.

I've no idea. I don't know who goes in for twinks...though I don't think they generally are counted as femmes...
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Quote from: Ideologue on April 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
I think it makes an interesting point about pervasive misogyny, even though that's something of an aside.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure I buy that there is this critical mass of gay men who demand non-femmy partners.  If that were the case, how are all the shockingly twinky gay men I've met getting laid?  I mean, I can practically guarantee that if I were gay, I'd probably still want to fuck skinny people that were shorter than me.
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Quote from: Ideologue on April 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
I think it makes an interesting point about pervasive misogyny, even though that's something of an aside.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure I buy that there is this critical mass of gay men who demand non-femmy partners.  If that were the case, how are all the shockingly twinky gay men I've met getting laid?  I mean, I can practically guarantee that if I were gay, I'd probably still want to fuck skinny people that were shorter than me.

If you were gay, you'd want different traits than you do now. It's kinda in the definition of gay. It's not like a straight guy who's got a gun to his head and told to fuck dudes.

However, if gays are anything like the lesbians on the L Word, you may have a point. The androgynous Shane was a mac daddy while the much hotter Jenny had more struggles.  :hmm:
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Quote from: garbon on April 18, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
Nevertheless, I'm not sure I buy that there is this critical mass of gay men who demand non-femmy partners.  If that were the case, how are all the shockingly twinky gay men I've met getting laid?  I mean, I can practically guarantee that if I were gay, I'd probably still want to fuck skinny people that were shorter than me.

I've no idea. I don't know who goes in for twinks...though I don't think they generally are counted as femmes...

There are other kinds of twinks than full-on femme twinks, but as I understand the usage all twinks are a little femmy by definition by body structure and appearance.
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As I understand the usage, twinks are overpowered and fun to play, but take no skill. :whistle:
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Quote from: Tyr on April 18, 2013, 08:41:47 PM
Doesn't it stand to reason that if a man is interested in men he will be interested in men fit the image of what an attractive man is? This of course doesn't mean effeminette.

Of course, different people have different types, but even girls who are into more flowery and emotional sorts of guys tend to like some 'manliness'.

Yes.

Martinus

Quote from: Ideologue on April 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
I think it makes an interesting point about pervasive misogyny, even though that's something of an aside.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure I buy that there is this critical mass of gay men who demand non-femmy partners.  If that were the case, how are all the shockingly twinky gay men I've met getting laid?  I mean, I can practically guarantee that if I were gay, I'd probably still want to fuck skinny people that were shorter than me.

Twinks and fems are different things.

Twinks are masculine, but boyish/young. Bears/muscle daddies are masculine, but older. Neither are the same as effeminate.

Martinus

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 18, 2013, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
I think it makes an interesting point about pervasive misogyny, even though that's something of an aside.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure I buy that there is this critical mass of gay men who demand non-femmy partners.  If that were the case, how are all the shockingly twinky gay men I've met getting laid?  I mean, I can practically guarantee that if I were gay, I'd probably still want to fuck skinny people that were shorter than me.

If you were gay, you'd want different traits than you do now. It's kinda in the definition of gay. It's not like a straight guy who's got a gun to his head and told to fuck dudes.

However, if gays are anything like the lesbians on the L Word, you may have a point. The androgynous Shane was a mac daddy while the much hotter Jenny had more struggles.  :hmm:

I think it differs from a person to a person but I always said that if I wanted to have sex with something that looks like a woman, acts like a woman and talks like a woman I'd be straight.


Josquius

Wonder if there's more of a preference from bi guys for the more feminine men :hmm:
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garbon

Quote from: Martinus on April 19, 2013, 01:55:26 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 18, 2013, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM
I think it makes an interesting point about pervasive misogyny, even though that's something of an aside.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure I buy that there is this critical mass of gay men who demand non-femmy partners.  If that were the case, how are all the shockingly twinky gay men I've met getting laid?  I mean, I can practically guarantee that if I were gay, I'd probably still want to fuck skinny people that were shorter than me.

If you were gay, you'd want different traits than you do now. It's kinda in the definition of gay. It's not like a straight guy who's got a gun to his head and told to fuck dudes.

However, if gays are anything like the lesbians on the L Word, you may have a point. The androgynous Shane was a mac daddy while the much hotter Jenny had more struggles.  :hmm:

I think it differs from a person to a person but I always said that if I wanted to have sex with something that looks like a woman, acts like a woman and talks like a woman I'd be straight.



Ah so I guess you don't take issue with the homophobia as you project it everyday. :D
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I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Valmy

Quote from: fahdiz on April 18, 2013, 05:23:31 PM
That, though, allows much more opportunity for one to be pleasantly surprised.

Not really.  If you have an open mind, you have an open mind.  People create their own opportunities.
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According the signs I see around campus we are up to LGBTQIA (Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transexual Queer Intersex Asexual) if you are scoring at home....or even if you are by yourself.  Yes fight for the right to be Asexual.
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 Oh, yeah. For sure- I think y'all are an older set and so out of touch with what the tumblr hambeast crowd has to say, but that's very common there, and they are largely the face of college..stuff. I know a few folks who identify as asexuals and are quite vigorous about the right to be so. (an accompanying issue is wishing there were no third person gendered pronouns, so an unjust identity could not be projected upon you.)
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Valmy

Quote from: Lettow77 on April 19, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
I know a few folks who identify as asexuals and are quite vigorous about the right to be so.

Interesting.  What are their demands?

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garbon

Quote from: Valmy on April 19, 2013, 07:45:10 AM
According the signs I see around campus we are up to LGBTQIA (Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transexual Queer Intersex Asexual) if you are scoring at home....or even if you are by yourself.

Which is absurd. Such an umbrella really can't stand for anything or hope that it's diverse membership will really see eye to eye on issues.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.