The liberal arts

[Phillip V]

The days of engineering types running major companies are over.

That's a great tell for when a company's "growth" period ends. When the engineer who started it gets replaced by some person of a different field.

That's my dream. I have no hard technical skills, but I weasel tech stuff into my job descriptions and titles for my largely admin roles. Later, I will manage the people with the hard technical skills.

[CountDeMoney]

The "downward" period begins when instead of hiring a humanities visionary they promote their CFO to CEO.

"You asked for miracles, Theo...I give you the M.B.A."

[OttoVonBismarck]

I find some of those starting salaries impossible to believe, unless they were only polling people working in Manhattan, Silicon Valley, Chicago, etc.

Which ones concern you that way? The petroleum engineers are almost definitely not working in Chicago, Manhattan, or SF.

[Caliga]

The Computer Science, MIS, and Finance ones basically.  The petroleum engineer one actually sounded reasonable to me.

[MadImmortalMan]

63k is about right for a network engineer type I'd say.

[Admiral Yi]

Fun factoid:  every single Mickey D's CEO has started out as a grunt and climbed the ranks.

[Caliga]

63k is about right for a network engineer type I'd say.

Even for a guy straight out of school with no experience?

[CountDeMoney]

Fun factoid:  every single Mickey D's CEO has started out as a grunt and climbed the ranks.

Were they engineers?

[Admiral Yi]

Were they engineers?

They were grunts.

[Jacob]

Fun factoid:  every single Mickey D's CEO has started out as a grunt and climbed the ranks.

That's actually really cool.

[fhdz]

Fun factoid:  every single Mickey D's CEO has started out as a grunt and climbed the ranks.

That's actually really cool.

It is. Makes it kind of a shame that they're in bed with all the companies who are completely assfucking our food supply.

[Phillip V]

My fantasy if I get banished from the government/military realm is to begin work at the lowest levels of McDonald's or WalMart and then rise towards the top.

All work is honorable!

[CountDeMoney]

My fantasy if I get banished from the government/military realm is to begin work at the lowest levels of McDonald's or WalMart and then rise towards the top.

All work is honorable!

That certainly solves my dilemma.  Who needs HSPD-7 and -12 when there's McGriddles to be made?

[garbon]

Egg White McMuffins!

[Caliga]

Egg White McMuffins!

Are those any good?  I haven't been to breakfast at McDonald's in a while (fortunately for my cholesterol).