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Started by Darth Wagtaros, April 15, 2013, 02:16:35 PM

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garbon

Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 24, 2013, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 24, 2013, 10:18:01 AM
Heh, you right-wing folks really do hate those on welfare more than terrorists.  :lol:

No, they don't differentiate between the two; welfare = potential terrorist, so this is a perfect case for them. :P

I think it is more what Cal said.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Caliga

Once again, a mass murder was committed by a bored, unemployed young man.  Maybe we should just making up bullshit Soviet-like jobs for everyone in this category.

"Hi, my name is Tamerlan and I'll be verifying that your passport is stamped correctly today."
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derspiess

Apparently Joker was an Obama supporter.  He tweeted 'Barack you my dawg' on election night.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

DGuller

Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 11:48:56 AM
Apparently Joker was an Obama supporter.  He tweeted 'Barack you my dawg' on election night.
So was Chris Dorner.  We're one terrorist away from a pattern.  :ph34r:

crazy canuck

Here is an interesting opinion piece from the Globe and Mail

Quote"From now on, I've decided to wear a sign slung from my neck that reads: ADNAN R. KHAN, NON-MUSLIM."

It's been a decade since I wrote that line, a controversial declaration, to be sure, especially for a person of Pakistani origin who is automatically presumed to be part of the community of believers. I was a journalist working for the Western press in Turkey at the time, covering the outskirts of the Iraq war, and though I was opposed to that war, I nonetheless represented the overarching culture of domination that had manufactured reasons to invade a sovereign nation and cause havoc in the lives of its innocent civilians.

But I was also a Muslim, nominally as that may have been, and that meant I had to take sides. "Being a Muslim in these trying times," I wrote in that commentary, "automatically aligns you with the spiraling hatred sweeping across the Arab world against the West. The logic's straightforward: you're brown and you have an Arabic name, therefore you hate the West."

It was, in retrospect, the beginning of a very dangerous narrative. None of the Muslims I knew hated the West, but somehow, being Muslim was quickly becoming synonymous with being anti-Western.

Over the years, that narrative has spread and grown, thrust into the forefront by a series of jihadist plots against Western targets. Most, like the recent arrest of two Canadian residents planning to bomb a train, are broken up before they can be executed. More often than not, the plots themselves turn out to be little more than angry young people talking tough. Garage talk, with little hope of ever being translated into action.

But occasionally, as in Boston, and London, and Madrid they do succeed, with devastating effect.

Whenever these attacks happen, I find myself hoping that a Muslim was not involved. Occasionally, that proves true – the carnage in Norway being the best example – though the Western media will almost reflexively speculate on the Muslim connection.

Often enough, however, it is a Muslim, and the narrative of a violent, bloodthirsty Islam is strengthened, this despite the fact that jihadist terrorism, in statistical terms, still ranks far below other forms of terrorist violence (right-wing, left-wing, racist) in many western countries, including Canada.

How did this happen? How did a fringe group of fanatics become the poster boys for a religion of more than a billion people? It's convenient to blame the media: jihadists are a good story in our fast-paced information age. They are easily packaged into sensational sound bites and visual ephemera. But that's only part of the picture.

The narrative of Islam has traveled down a dark road, and Muslims themselves are largely to blame. That they have allowed a small, inherently marginalized group to hijack that narrative is a reflection of an overarching malaise in Muslim thought.

Take, for example, that most famous of Islamic phrases – Allahu Akbar. In the jihadist narrative, it has become a slogan, a war cry. It has been corrupted to such a degree that even moderate Muslims have forgotten the deeper meanings it implies, reduced as it has been to simply "God is Great".

Ask a Sufi, however, and the meaning is much different. These mystics and intellectuals – the last remaining bulwark against the ossifying effects of ultra-orthodox Islam – do the necessary brainwork that Islam demands of its adherents.

Here's what a Sufi might tell you: Allah is the contraction of the Arabic word al, meaning "the" and ilah, meaning god. A better translation, they would say, is "The One God", or more mystically, The Unity, that overarching force which binds the universe together.

The meaning of akbar is somewhat less contentious. In Arabic, the word for "great" is kebir. Akbar instead means "greater".

So putting the two together - Allah and Akbar – would produce "The One God is Greater" or "The Unity is Greater".

Next, consider the hu. In grammatical terms, the u is the nominative desinence added to Allah to link it to the verb akbar. Straightforward enough. But as most Sufis, and Arabists, will tell you, nothing is ever so straightforward in Arabic, particularly the Arabic of the Qur'an.

The hu itself is an invocation of sorts: the sound carries meaning. Some mystics equate the hu with the Hindu om, employing it in devotional ceremonies, or zikr, as a mantra. Allah-hoo, Sufis are often heard chanting at dergahs, their private gatherings. Allah-hoo, over and over again, occasionally releasing an elongated hoooooooooo in an airy expulsion of breath.

Breath itself is the key to the ceremony. The repetition of hu, interspersed with Allah, is a kind of breathing exercise intended to release the mind from its attachments and bring a person closer to God's all-encompassing presence. So Sufis often refer to hu as the presence of God.

So now where does Allahu Akbar stand? We already have Allah meaning the One God, or the Unity, and Akbar meaning greater. Add the hu and you have 'The presence of the One God is Greater', or 'The presence of Unity is Greater'.

That reading is a world apart from God is Great. Whereas the latter externalizes God, turns Him into an object to be worshipped and obeyed, the more spiritual (and arguably more accurate) rendering brings God back to earth, a presence to be experienced and understood. God is Great is the exultation of the masses; The Presence of God is Greater is quiet reflection, an individual, meditative exercise.

That is the Islam I remember from my childhood, a faith infused with such subtle meaning that it has produced some of the greatest works of literature in human history – Rumi, Hafiz, Gibran, to name a few. It is not the angry Islam we see today.

My mother studied Persian poetry at university. She used to be able to quote Rumi in the original Persian. Since 9-11 and all of the chaos that has followed, anger has displaced that beauty. Muslims have allowed their faith to devolve into a series of rules and prohibitions devoid of inner meaning, a story shaped and controlled by fanatics.

As long as that remains the case, I will keep that sign slung around my neck.


Adnan Khan is a writer and photographer who lives in Istanbul and Islamabad.

derspiess

Smart guy.  He might want to sell his home in Islamabad, though.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

crazy canuck

Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 12:43:47 PM
Smart guy.  He might want to sell his home in Islamabad, though.

Yeah, I was thinking he probably doesnt spend much time in Pakistan after making public comments like that.

derspiess

I listened to a little Glenn Beck on my morning commute this week.  He keeps chasing his tail about the Saudi kid that was in the hospital and was supposedly going to be deported.  This morning they were mocking Big Sis, which was fairly entertaining :)
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

crazy canuck

Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
I listened to a little Glenn Beck on my morning commute this week.

Everytime I think there is hope for you, you come up with something like this.

derspiess

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 24, 2013, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 12:53:28 PM
I listened to a little Glenn Beck on my morning commute this week.

Everytime I think there is hope for you, you come up with something like this.

Oh, I'm not a Glenn Beck fan.  He's a bit crazy & melodramatic for my likings.  The only redeeming quality of his show is when he & his two co-hosts do their smartass routine mocking someone on the left.

I was listening this week to see if he had any fun conspiracy theories about last week.  He apparently thinks he's on to something with this Saudi kid, but I haven't pieced together what he's insinuating.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

fhdz

Glenn Beck sure does cry a lot.
and the horse you rode in on

Caliga

Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 01:18:03 PM
I was listening this week to see if he had any fun conspiracy theories about last week.  He apparently thinks he's on to something with this Saudi kid, but I haven't pieced together what he's insinuating.
OMG THE HOUSE OF SAUD SPONSERED THIS
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derspiess

Quote from: Caliga on April 24, 2013, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2013, 01:18:03 PM
I was listening this week to see if he had any fun conspiracy theories about last week.  He apparently thinks he's on to something with this Saudi kid, but I haven't pieced together what he's insinuating.
OMG THE HOUSE OF SAUD SPONSERED THIS

I suppose that's the theory.  He did go off on a rant about them, which should put him in good standing with all the blubbering Euros with chips on their shoulders about the Saudi royal family.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

QuoteBreath itself is the key to the ceremony. The repetition of hu, interspersed with Allah, is a kind of breathing exercise intended to release the mind from its attachments and bring a person closer to God's all-encompassing presence. So Sufis often refer to hu as the presence of God.

Everybody was Kung Hu fighting.

Barrister

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