Abortion doctor charged with 7 counts of murder in Philly

[CountDeMoney]

Until Thursday, I wasn't aware of this story.

That's because the entire case has been under a court-ordered gag order for over 2 years, and the trial only started last month.

So why hasn't it been in the news since a month ago?

It's been covered in the Baltimore Sun, I suppose due to our proximity to Philly.  Like most regional murder cases.

[CountDeMoney]

Some states have increased regulation of abortion clinics in recent years by treating them like medical facilities

It is surprising to me that abortion clinics which by definition perform medical procedures are not regulated as a medical facility. 

Like how dental offices that perform medical procedures are not regulated?

[KRonn]

I didn't read the article because I've seen a couple of news reports of how gruesome it is. Pretty disgusting.

[Malthus]

Some states have increased regulation of abortion clinics in recent years by treating them like medical facilities

It is surprising to me that abortion clinics which by definition perform medical procedures are not regulated as a medical facility. 

Like how dental offices that perform medical procedures are not regulated?

The dental offices that use rusty pliers and a shit-encrusted hammer to conduct dentistry of course demonstrate the horrors that the liberal press doesn't want you to know, as it implicates all dentists. 

[OttoVonBismarck]

Generally for major dental work you're going to various types of specialist dentist like endodontists who often have more sophisticated surgical setups than regular dentists.

But arguing for more procedures to be like dental work is a bad argument. A surprisingly large number of people die from dental surgery, not like you should be in a panic about it, but more than most people realize. I for one would never allow a dentist to put me under for surgery (I actually have never had a cavity, and even had all my wisdom teeth come in without need of removal, so I've never had dental surgery of any kind) , I've read about the extra training on top of regular dental school that dentists have to go through in order to be certified to put you under. It's surprisingly not a lot, and it's not surprising that sometimes dentists make mistakes with it and kill people.

[CountDeMoney]

The dental offices that use rusty pliers and a shit-encrusted hammer to conduct dentistry of course demonstrate the horrors that the liberal press doesn't want you to know, as it implicates all dentists. 

And rightfully so.  Those inhumane torturers.

[CountDeMoney]

But arguing for more procedures to be like dental work is a bad argument. A surprisingly large number of people die from dental surgery, not like you should be in a panic about it, but more than most people realize. I for one would never allow a dentist to put me under for surgery (I actually have never had a cavity, and even had all my wisdom teeth come in without need of removal, so I've never had dental surgery of any kind) , I've read about the extra training on top of regular dental school that dentists have to go through in order to be certified to put you under. It's surprisingly not a lot, and it's not surprising that sometimes dentists make mistakes with it and kill people.

They pass a hell of a lot more gas than your Temples of Freedom, but that doesn't stop their industry cock blocking regulatory action and ensuring that dental offices to merely adhere to nothing more than OSHA.

Dentists are not anesthesiologists, and shouldn't be allowed to act as such.

[Martinus]

America never ceases to amaze me how it manages to reach both extremes of any issue at once.

[Martinus]

I saw the visual aid and decided not to read.

Smart man. I did the same and now I am going to argue this out of context, without understanding the issue. It's the Languish way. 

[Martinus]

Yeah I am rather shocked abortion clinics are not being regulated the same as any other medical facility, especially given the stakes involved.  Professionals performing abortions especially need to be operating at a high professional level.  Pregnancy, even with the goal of termination, is not something to mess around with.

Yeah this is surprising. By the way, am I guessing right that this story is about late term abortions that sorta spill into birth?

[Barrister]

Yeah I am rather shocked abortion clinics are not being regulated the same as any other medical facility, especially given the stakes involved.  Professionals performing abortions especially need to be operating at a high professional level.  Pregnancy, even with the goal of termination, is not something to mess around with.

Yeah this is surprising. By the way, am I guessing right that this story is about late term abortions that sorta spill into birth?

There was no sorta - he'd snip their spinal cords with scissors.

But it was also the general conditions.  One of the murder counts was one of his female patients.

[fhdz]

America never ceases to amaze me how it manages to reach both extremes of any issue at once.

We are super, super awesome.

[Martinus]

Yeah I am rather shocked abortion clinics are not being regulated the same as any other medical facility, especially given the stakes involved.  Professionals performing abortions especially need to be operating at a high professional level.  Pregnancy, even with the goal of termination, is not something to mess around with.

Yeah this is surprising. By the way, am I guessing right that this story is about late term abortions that sorta spill into birth?

There was no sorta - he'd snip their spinal cords with scissors.

But it was also the general conditions.  One of the murder counts was one of his female patients.

Gotcha. I never understood how that works in the US. For all the bible thumping and "in God we trust", they have some of the most liberal (for lack of a better word) abortion laws on the planet. I may be wrong but I don't think there is any country in pinko-commie-godless Europe that allows abortion past second trimester.

Anyone who is fine with a third trimester abortion but is not fine with killing a newborn baby is either an idiot or a hypocrite.

Edit: Also, cheers for the mental image with the scissors. Just what I needed before going to bed, fucker.

[Barrister]

Yeah I am rather shocked abortion clinics are not being regulated the same as any other medical facility, especially given the stakes involved.  Professionals performing abortions especially need to be operating at a high professional level.  Pregnancy, even with the goal of termination, is not something to mess around with.

Yeah this is surprising. By the way, am I guessing right that this story is about late term abortions that sorta spill into birth?

There was no sorta - he'd snip their spinal cords with scissors.

But it was also the general conditions.  One of the murder counts was one of his female patients.

Gotcha. I never understood how that works in the US. For all the bible thumping and "in God we trust", they have some of the most liberal (for lack of a better word) abortion laws on the planet. I may be wrong but I don't think there is any country in pinko-commie-godless Europe that allows abortion past second trimester.

Anyone who is fine with a third trimester abortion but is not fine with killing a newborn baby is either an idiot or a hypocrite.

Edit: Also, cheers for the mental image with the scissors. Just what I needed before going to bed, fucker.

It's not like I made this stuff up dude.

And in PA at least these abortions were also not allowed.  The guy's entire practice seemed to be doing illegal 3rd trimester abortions.

[Martinus]

Oh ok. So this is about a criminal killing people for profit. So where's the catch? 

One would have thought that a respectable crown prosecutor would not stoop to posting stories that have no other purpose than to titillate the public.