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Started by Kleves, April 11, 2013, 02:49:55 PM

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Kleves

What are Languish's thought about Obama's proposed budget? Here's one view:
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There is something profoundly timid about President Obama's proposed $3.8 trillion budget for 2014. Stripped of boasts about "investments" for the future and a responsible "balance" between deficit reduction and economic growth, the budget is a status-quo document. It lets existing trends and policies run their course, meaning that Obama would allow higher spending on the elderly to overwhelm most other government programs. This is not "liberal" or "conservative" so much as politically expedient and lazy.

The trends are clear. From 2014 to 2023, the administration projects annual spending on Social Security to rise from $860 billion to $1.4 trillion, assuming its proposal for altering the inflation adjustment of benefits is adopted. Over the same years, annual Medicare and Medicaid spending would go from $828 billion to $1.4 trillion. Meanwhile, defense spending would barely rise from $618 billion to $631 billion. Non-defense discretionary spending (a catchall covering everything from Head Start to the weather service) would increase from $624 billion to $647 billion.

But these are all "nominal" dollars; they don't account for inflation. When the figures are adjusted for price and population changes, shifts are more pronounced. Defense and non-defense "discretionary" spending decline by 22 percent from 2014 to 2023. (Defense News reported last week that the Air Force has sharply cut pilot training; there will be more of this.) Social Security rises 25 percent, Medicare and Medicaid 27 percent. (All figures are from Obama's budget.)

What's happening is that savings from shrinking defense and discretionary programs are financing expanded spending for the elderly. As a share of the economy (gross domestic product), non-elderly and non-health programs are rapidly eroding. In 2012, defense and domestic discretionary programs represented 8.3 percent of GDP; by 2023, the administration projects their share at 4.9 percent of GDP. This can't continue indefinitely, because — at some point — these programs become completely ineffective or disappear.

But Obama remains unwilling to grapple with basic questions posed by an aging population, high health costs and persistent deficits. Why shouldn't programs for the elderly be overhauled to reflect longer life expectancy and growing wealth among retirees? Shouldn't we have a debate on the size and role of government, eliminating low-value programs and raising taxes to cover the rest? The "spin" given by the White House — and accepted by much of the media — is that the president is doing precisely this by putting coveted "entitlement" spending on the bargaining table.

It's phony. Compared with the size of the problem, Obama's proposals are tiny. The much-discussed shift in the inflation adjustment for Social Security benefits to the "chained" consumer price index would save $130 billion over a decade; that's about 1 percent of projected Social Security spending of $11.23 trillion over the same period. A proposal to raise Medicare premiums for affluent retirees is more meaningful but would affect only couples with incomes exceeding $170,000, says Obama aide Gene Sperling.

Similarly, the administration also opposes "wasting taxpayer dollars on programs that are outdated, ineffective or duplicative." But it proposed only 215 "cuts, consolidations and savings proposals," reducing spending by an estimated $25 billion in 2014. That's about 0.7 percent of federal spending. No major program is on chopping block.

The work of politics is persuasion. It is orchestrating desirable, though unpopular, changes. (Popular changes don't require much work.) Obama has the intellectual and rhetorical skills to conduct a debate on government's size and role. But it would be a hard and hazardous political task, because it would challenge the assumptions and interests of wide swaths of the public. There is no guarantee that he would succeed in altering attitudes. Already, his small proposed cuts in Social Security benefits have outraged much of the liberal base.

So Obama has taken a pass. He has chosen the lazy way out. He's evading basic choices while claiming he's bold and brave. A more charitable interpretation is that he's focusing his political talents on more promising causes (gun control, immigration). Either way, government is slowly growing larger while — in many basic functions — it's being strangled. This paradox, it seems, will be Obama's questionable legacy.
So: is the path to a better future, or a further step on the road to insolvency?
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Kleves on April 11, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
Here's one view:

Whose view is it?  Yours?  Charles Krauthammer's?  The Editorial Board of the WSJ?  derfetus.blogspot.com?
Use references, please.

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crazy canuck

I am a bit confused about the US budgetary process since it appears your government can operate without one.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2013, 02:59:07 PM
I am a bit confused about the US budgetary process since it appears your government can operate without one.

We did for quite a long time.  Forged a nation, fought a civil war and two world wars without one.
But bean counters need love, too.

derspiess

We need to invest in more green jobs.
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I am disgusted...but not surprised.
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Berkut

Obama has been a rather huge disappointment.

Sad that the Party of Stupid couldn't come up with anyone better.

In fact, it is really sad.
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Caliga

Quote from: Berkut on April 11, 2013, 03:08:36 PM
Obama has been a rather huge disappointment.
I told you people once before: starting in the 80s every major city had to elect a token black dude to prove it wasn't racist... nearly all of these mayors were horrible (Dinkins, Goode, Barry, Kilpatrick....) Maybe Obama is America's token black mayor. :)
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crazy canuck

Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 11, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2013, 02:59:07 PM
I am a bit confused about the US budgetary process since it appears your government can operate without one.

We did for quite a long time.  Forged a nation, fought a civil war and two world wars without one.
But bean counters need love, too.

Thats the thing I dont get though.  Under our system failure to successfully pass a budget brings down a government.  In your system it seems to have become par for the course.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 11, 2013, 02:59:07 PM
I am a bit confused about the US budgetary process since it appears your government can operate without one.

For the government to stay open either they need to pass a budget or they a Continuing Resolution.  I think we've been running on Continuing Resolutions, which are typically good for a few months, for some time now.

The Minsky Moment

Terrible article in OP - full of unexplained assumptions ("the elderly" are growing more "wealthy"?  really - by how much?  how distributed?  what is the basis for the claim?) and arbitrary or meaningless judgments (why is incrementalism bad?  in what sense is can a budget be called "lazy" - do the numbers not add up? Are there spelling errors?).

Spending on programs for the elderly are budgeted to rise because we are now entering the period where the Boomers are retiring.  This is a demographic issue that has been known about for decades, and its effect on causing Social Security and Medicare spending to rise during this exact period of time has been thoroughly known and understood (and quanitified) since the Greenspan Commission in 1983.  So why the sudden running around with heads cut off about an annual rate of increase (after inflation) in the low 2 percent range?

Meanwhile, Samuelson says nothing, absolutely nothing specific about what "dersirable, but unpopular changes" Obama should be boldly championing or what "major progams" should be on the "chopping block".  talk about lack of courage - if some clod of columnist can't summon together 2 cahones to say something of susbtance, what can Obama reasonably expect from Congress (i.e. the body under our Constitutional system that is actually responsible for spending decisions)?

If you want to talk about the budget fine.  If you want to engage in some empty tsk-tsking exercise where the object is to show off moral superiority, count me out.
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Caliga

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 11, 2013, 04:20:20 PM
If you want to engage in some empty tsk-tsking exercise where the object is to show off moral superiority
Duh.  Of course that's what we want to do.
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The Brain

He should balance the budget and move to the gold standard. This isn't rocket science.
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Caliga

Quote from: The Brain on April 11, 2013, 04:41:12 PM
He should balance the budget and move to the gold standard. This isn't rocket science.
Another thing he should do is stop being racist against gun owners.... oh and also be less black. :)
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