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Started by MadImmortalMan, March 29, 2013, 04:43:58 PM

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jimmy olsen

Quote from: garbon on April 02, 2013, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 02, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: Fate on April 02, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
It is absolutely ludicrous to think there will be a single cure for all cancers as the author purports.

With your years and years of experience in pharmacology I am sure to trust your expert opinion.

It does seem odd to suggest there would be one cure. Given that at the most basic cancers all involve cells growing uncontrollably in a way that harms the body - why would it make sense to assume there would be a drug that could stop such growth in all types of cells?
All the ones they tested had a protein that inhibited a proper immune response. Disable that protein and it logically follows there will be a proper immune response unless there are other protiens or factors preventing it.
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fhdz

Quote from: Jacob on April 02, 2013, 09:16:46 PM
That said, if you're just being snarky because you think he's got an attitude problem that's way more defensible than Fahdiz's "lol one drug to cure them all!"

That's your characterization of my beef with Fate's statement?

Lol.
and the horse you rode in on

Razgovory

You know, it's kinda interesting.  If Tim had started this article it probably would have been mocked within the first five posts.
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mongers

It comes too late for auther Iain Banks, who today announced he has terminal cancer:


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Author Iain Banks has terminal cancer

Author Iain Banks has revealed that he has late stage cancer and is unlikely to live for more than a year.

The Scottish writer posted a message on his official website saying his next novel The Quarry, due to be published later this year, would be his last.

The 59-year-old's novels include The Wasp Factory, The Crow Road, Complicity and the Culture series.

The statement said his health problems came to light when he saw his doctor, suffering from a sore back.

He was diagnosed with jaundice, before further tests established the full extent of his illness.

In the personal statement on his website, Banks said he had asked his partner Adele to marry him and was now on a short honeymoon.

Fellow Scottish author, Ian Rankin, said the news of Banks' terminal cancer was "just awful".

....

rest of item here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22015175

:(


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Fate

Quote from: fahdiz on April 02, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: Fate on April 02, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
It is absolutely ludicrous to think there will be a single cure for all cancers as the author purports.

With your years and years of experience in pharmacology I am sure to trust your expert opinion.

No you should totally trust the science reporter with no formal training in medicine or pharmacology who probably had a story quota and decided to fill it with the drug#53819318-in-testing de jour. This exact same story could be written every week. I bet he has a copy/pasted template ready to go when news dry spells occur.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: mongers on April 03, 2013, 08:12:31 AM
It comes too late for auther Iain Banks, who today announced he has terminal cancer:


Quote
Author Iain Banks has terminal cancer

Author Iain Banks has revealed that he has late stage cancer and is unlikely to live for more than a year.

The Scottish writer posted a message on his official website saying his next novel The Quarry, due to be published later this year, would be his last.

The 59-year-old's novels include The Wasp Factory, The Crow Road, Complicity and the Culture series.

The statement said his health problems came to light when he saw his doctor, suffering from a sore back.

He was diagnosed with jaundice, before further tests established the full extent of his illness.

In the personal statement on his website, Banks said he had asked his partner Adele to marry him and was now on a short honeymoon.

Fellow Scottish author, Ian Rankin, said the news of Banks' terminal cancer was "just awful".

....

rest of item here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22015175

:(
:o

I thought he was a lot older than that. Just terrible. :(
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

fhdz

Quote from: Fate on April 03, 2013, 08:17:16 AM
Quote from: fahdiz on April 02, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
Quote from: Fate on April 02, 2013, 03:40:32 PM
It is absolutely ludicrous to think there will be a single cure for all cancers as the author purports.

With your years and years of experience in pharmacology I am sure to trust your expert opinion.

No you should totally trust the science reporter with no formal training in medicine or pharmacology who probably had a story quota and decided to fill it with the drug#53819318-in-testing de jour. This exact same story could be written every week. I bet he has a copy/pasted template ready to go when news dry spells occur.

I don't trust either one of you. I thought I made that clear. :mellow:
and the horse you rode in on

Admiral Yi

Quote from: fahdiz on April 03, 2013, 09:44:34 AM
I don't trust either one of you. I thought I made that clear. :mellow:

QuoteThat is extremely promising news.

Not clear to me.

fhdz

"That" meaning "a drug which appears to work on several cancers in non-humans will go to a human testing phase".
and the horse you rode in on

Zanza

Quote from: mongers on April 03, 2013, 08:12:31 AM
It comes too late for auther Iain Banks, who today announced he has terminal cancer:


Quote
Author Iain Banks has terminal cancer

Author Iain Banks has revealed that he has late stage cancer and is unlikely to live for more than a year.

The Scottish writer posted a message on his official website saying his next novel The Quarry, due to be published later this year, would be his last.

The 59-year-old's novels include The Wasp Factory, The Crow Road, Complicity and the Culture series.

The statement said his health problems came to light when he saw his doctor, suffering from a sore back.

He was diagnosed with jaundice, before further tests established the full extent of his illness.

In the personal statement on his website, Banks said he had asked his partner Adele to marry him and was now on a short honeymoon.

Fellow Scottish author, Ian Rankin, said the news of Banks' terminal cancer was "just awful".

....

rest of item here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22015175

:(
:( Too bad, I love his books.

garbon

Quote from: fahdiz on April 03, 2013, 11:52:28 AM
"That" meaning "a drug which appears to work on several cancers in non-humans will go to a human testing phase".

Apart from what Fate said that this is really something novel. A casual search gave me more than a handful of results from 2008-2012 of different agents they wanted to test.
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