Korea Thread: Liberal Moon Jae In Elected

[Legbiter]

Every provocation by NK (shelling, commando raids, sea action) has a non-zero chance of escalating, tit-for-tat, into a full-scale war. 

Seoul is the hostage NK can kill, if things go tits up.

Still, NK needs a beatdown.

[mongers]

Are we sure that Kimmy is not being manipulted somehow by the old guard? He is may not be like his father or grandfather who apparently knew when to back down.

Again, who knows? But I've read that one conclusion that analysts are drawing from the past couple of weeks is that Kim is definitely in charge. Until now they felt there was more of what you describe going on. But for whatever reason North Korean specialists apparently strongly suspect that Kim is very much in control.

Yes, as you both say, do we really know ?

[jimmy olsen]

Lol, some great pics of the North's shitty air force. Love the photo of their SPECTRE style runway tunneled through a mountain.

freekorea.us/2007/04/29/the-north-korean-air-force-by-google-earth/

[derspiess]

Just from what I've seen, Kim Jong Un has a ways to go before he measures up to the figure his dad & grandfather were.  They knew how to make an appearance.  He can wave & smile & clap about as well as they could, but I saw him give a couple speeches and it was dreadful.  Lots of stuttering, looking back down at his notes without looking up, apprehensive tone in his voice-- just not the thing to command the same personality cult his two predecessors had. 

[jimmy olsen]

 

http://www.nknews.org/2013/04/foreign-embassies-urged-to-consider-evacuating-north-korea/

#2 of a 3 STAGE PROCESS LEADING TO 'TERRORIST ATTACKS'?

The latest escalation comes after comments made by an anonymous source at South Korea's JoongAng ilbo, one month ago, that suggest the embassy warning could be a final step before a terrorist attack orchestrated by Pyongyang.

In a report about an assassination attempt on Kim Jong Un, the JoongAng Ilbo source warned that the North Korean leader had "secretly ordered that a three-stage scenario be drawn up to really heighten fear of nuclear war."

    The first stage is issuing war threats against the South and spreading the idea that a war is imminent, the source said.

    The second stage is reportedly forcing foreigners in the North to leave the country, warning that their personal safety cannot be guaranteed in time of war. The North would also inform foreign diplomatic missions in Pyongyang to pull out their citizens.

    The third step will be a terrorist attack on a public installation in the South such as an airport, or an armed attack like the sinking of the Cheonan, the source said.

The same source warned that while Kim Jong Un "doesn't really want a war", he wants to solve domestic discontent, "by heightening the sense of crisis and find a way to get sanctions like South Korea's May 24 sanctions removed".

[mongers]

Lol, some great pics of the North's shitty air force. Love the photo of their SPECTRE style runway tunneled through a mountain.

freekorea.us/2007/04/29/the-north-korean-air-force-by-google-earth/

If that's what it is then it's brilliant; go to all of that enormous effort to guarantee that just two bombs will permanently put your own airfield out of action.

On a more general note, using google maps to look at the DMZ, man do some of those South Korean outposts in it look like S.V. fire-bases of 40 years ago; wouldn't like to be stationed in one, when the balloon goes up.

[derspiess]

using google maps to look at the DMZ,

Nice to hear I'm not the only one who's been doing that

[mongers]

using google maps to look at the DMZ,

Nice to hear I'm not the only one who's been doing that

Yeah, quite interesting, you see a modern developed country, then two kilometres of untouched forest/marsh and then the beginning of a nothing country, just a few dirt tracks and observation posts on their side, no indication of any hardware, man they must be the world's best diggers/hiders.

Alternatively maybe they're isn't anything much there ?

Looking at the area around the industrial zone crossing point a lot of the N.Korean ops appear to have small areas of cultivated land, like the soldiers are having to supplement their rations.

Yet 2 kms East (border is on a N-S axis here) is a large ROK base, big buildings, parking, obvious assortment of military soft skins and apc, and an associated large of cleared land.  Not used for agriculture, but you can see some black figures/shadows about 19/20 of them, and a set of posts at each end, the South Korean conscripts are having a game of soccer.

[Ed Anger]

I have gone to BONERCON 3

[11B4V]

[Admiral Yi]

 

War mongler?

[11B4V]

War mongler?

Obviously created by someone in the Southeast US.

[Ed Anger]

I wish Psy would implode.

[citizen k]

War mongler?

Obviously created by someone in the Southeast US.

I was going to say someone from Korea.

[mongers]

US 'blinks' ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22056387

North Korea tension prompts US missile test delay

The US Pentagon has delayed an intercontinental ballistic missile test scheduled for next week, defence officials say.

The Minuteman 3 test was put off because of concerns that it could be misinterpreted by North Korea, amid fears of a conflict.

It could be postponed till May.

North Korea has issued a series of unusually strong threats since it was sanctioned by the UN in March for carrying out a third nuclear test.

It has threatened nuclear strikes on the US, formally declared war on the South, and pledged to reopen a nuclear reactor in defiance of UN Security Council resolutions.

A Pentagon official said the US wanted to "avoid any misperception or miscalculation" that might result from the test.

US and South Korean officials have sought to play down fears of a conflict on the Korean peninsula in recent days.

On Friday, North Korea warned it would not be able to guarantee the safety of embassy staff in the event of a war, but no foreign governments have announced plans to evacuate their embassies.
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