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Is EU3 fun yet?

Started by Faeelin, May 21, 2009, 05:37:10 PM

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Martinus

But what's too high? And how often do you guys use an option like "Claim the Throne"? There seem to be a lot of choices but I do not know their consequences. :(

katmai

Who are you playing as Marti?
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Barrister

Quote from: Martinus on December 27, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
But what's too high? And how often do you guys use an option like "Claim the Throne"? There seem to be a lot of choices but I do not know their consequences. :(

Try and keep infamy below 10 I think.

In HTTT I've only been playing with Byzantium, where I have so many cores I never need to claim thrones.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Martinus

Quote from: katmai on December 27, 2009, 06:08:45 PM
Who are you playing as Marti?

Austria. I managed to conquer Verona and vassalize Modena whereas France swallowed a lot of shit. :(

Barrister

Quote from: Martinus on December 27, 2009, 06:10:30 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 27, 2009, 06:08:45 PM
Who are you playing as Marti?

Austria. I managed to conquer Verona and vassalize Modena whereas France swallowed a lot of shit. :(

France probably has cores on all those minors, which make it much easier.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

katmai

Quote from: Barrister on December 27, 2009, 06:09:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on December 27, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
But what's too high? And how often do you guys use an option like "Claim the Throne"? There seem to be a lot of choices but I do not know their consequences. :(

Try and keep infamy below 10 I think.


That's what I've been doing, but as been playing Castille I am in so many holy wars that it's keeping my infamy low.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

Razgovory

Early game is always tough do to cash flow problems.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Martinus on December 27, 2009, 06:10:30 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 27, 2009, 06:08:45 PM
Who are you playing as Marti?

Austria. I managed to conquer Verona and vassalize Modena whereas France swallowed a lot of shit. :(
Is Bohemia still the Emperor? Take them out at the first opportunity and get elected yourself.
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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Viking

I went all the way with England to become Emperor. Once I found the triggers and thresholds for voting I maximized my voting strength each round and got good results. When I finally got the "Ave Caesar" from the princelings I had Britain, France, The Netherlands, Germany, Bohemia, Modern Poland, Austria and Italy minus Sicily. (Doubling in size when that happened).

The Restoring Religious Unity to the Empire was great, each time I demanded and got it I get 10 Empire Mojo points and when they refused I got more. The minor protestants insisted on reverting to heresy giving my all the Imperial Authority I could ask for. I also smacked down on multiple attempts at blobbing by mid size germans, each time I released minors who were allied and had me a +200 and were willing voters plus the Empire Mojo points I got. If you can avoid external intervention which can beat you at war or you are the external intervention nobody can beat at war then forming the HRE and unifying it is easy and very very very much worth your time.  Imperial Liberation and Restoring Religious Unity are the CB's you should be using constantly.

With colonisation it gets even more fun. The Colonial Conquest of Injuns and other Pagans is just too easy. Just a few bb for annexing all of the amerindians? WTF? The only real limitation is how quickly I can get those indians converted into good taxpaying europeans. The Colonial Conflict with other European powers is good too, 1/4 infamy for colonies. You can take half of the caribbean from somebody and europe will take less notice than when a german minor annexes another german minor.

My personal favourite is "Imperialism" the CB (tm). Half Infamy and you can attack anybody. I think I got it when I became an Absolute Monarch (a government form I got rid of when the 3/3/3 rated 18 y.o. king came to the throne and his heir was 4/3/5) and kept it when I became a Despotic Republic (Think the Patrician in Ankh-Morpokk). There are now 12 catholic countries left (Portugal, Castille, Aragon, Sardinia, Kniggots, Cyprus, Transylvania, Polotsk, Savoy, Salzburg, Denmark and Bar) apart from the Empire which stretches from Memel to Fastnet and from the Baltic to Calabria. in 1650 ish.
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First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

MadImmortalMan

I tried this game again this afternoon. Rebel Hell. Fuck, I remember why I quit. Back in the bin it goes. This is not fun. It's frustrating.
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"Complacency can be a self-denying prophecy."
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Tamas

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 28, 2009, 02:29:02 AM
I tried this game again this afternoon. Rebel Hell. Fuck, I remember why I quit. Back in the bin it goes. This is not fun. It's frustrating.

:rolleyes: you must learn to manage your empire. But don't worry Jaron sucks at the game as well :P


As for farming imperial authority, yes, the religion thing is rather ugly, for our MP game we must agree to not do it.

And yes, I would prefer a map without any american tribes save for aztecs and incas.

Solmyr

Quote from: Martinus on December 27, 2009, 06:10:30 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 27, 2009, 06:08:45 PM
Who are you playing as Marti?

Austria. I managed to conquer Verona and vassalize Modena whereas France swallowed a lot of shit. :(

Austria is fairly easy. You get all sorts of CBs from your missions which allow you to expand in different directions. Once you get Emperor, you get even more CBs, allowing you to establish your HRE hegemony. Just be careful with infamy, and try to make sure someone else is more hated than you. Keeping up good relations and influence with the Pope is also useful, if you plan to stay Catholic.

Martinus

Should I join all wars when a HRE minor is being attacked by, say, France or Denmark? I'm kinda scared of them. :P

jimmy olsen

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 28, 2009, 02:29:02 AM
I tried this game again this afternoon. Rebel Hell. Fuck, I remember why I quit. Back in the bin it goes. This is not fun. It's frustrating.
You shouldn't have any problem with rebels, what version are you playing?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

DGuller

Quote from: Martinus on December 28, 2009, 06:47:34 AM
Should I join all wars when a HRE minor is being attacked by, say, France or Denmark? I'm kinda scared of them. :P
Yes, you should.  Wimping out doesn't earn you any brownie points, in fact it's a good way to lose them.  As an Emperor you get a huge manpower boost, use it.  The worst thing that can happen is that you can't really help out the country being attacked, and have to watch it being annexed, and then fight a couple of defensive skirmishers against isolated task forces.  You should also remember that the more fighting you do, the more military tradition you get, so if you save it up until it gets to 50% or so, you can get some kick-ass general and not be afraid of anyone.

You should also think aggressively on occasion.  If you see France fighting two wars and a huge war exhaustion, try if at all possible to make it three.  Any HRE countries you liberate is a win for you, and it chips away at the power of France.  They may even get dogpiled if they're excommunicated or been are a bad boy.  The less threatening France, Burgundy, or Denmark are, the easier your job is.