1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security

[derspiess]

Hell, I wanna work there if they're gonna have all that free ammo to train with.

Oh so you consider tax-payer bought ammo free eh? 

Well if I don't gotta pay for it, it's free!!

[Admiral Yi]

 

Gotcha Speesh.

[Caliga]

After all these years, the name 'Homeland Security' still disturbs me.

[derspiess]

After all these years, the name 'Homeland Security' still disturbs me.

Was a bad idea then & a bad one now.

[grumbler]

I do love the hysteria and intellectual dishonesty of reports like this.

The ammo thing, for instance:  DHS plans to buy between 15 and 20 million rounds of ammunition per year, but issued a multi-year purchase order  that requires the contractor to be able to deliver 1.5 billion rounds over the undefined course of the contract, at the set price plus inflation.  It's not going into a stockpile; most of it is apparently for training.  I have no idea why Homeland Security needs so many training rounds.  B4 can probably give us a good figure on how many rounds a typical DHS or ICE or whatever agent should reasonably be expected to fire in training in a year, given that they are essentially cops like he is.

[grumbler]

After all these years, the name 'Homeland Security' still disturbs me.

Was a bad idea then & a bad one now.

On this I think we all can agree.

[mongers]

I bet this 'story' will be all over Faceplant  "  OMG FEMA Death Camps .... "

[Neil]

I do love the hysteria and intellectual dishonesty of reports like this.

The ammo thing, for instance:  DHS plans to buy between 15 and 20 million rounds of ammunition per year, but issued a multi-year purchase order  that requires the contractor to be able to deliver 1.5 billion rounds over the undefined course of the contract, at the set price plus inflation.  It's not going into a stockpile; most of it is apparently for training.  I have no idea why Homeland Security needs so many training rounds.  B4 can probably give us a good figure on how many rounds a typical DHS or ICE or whatever agent should reasonably be expected to fire in training in a year, given that they are essentially cops like he is.

Is it common for them to issue contracts for a century's worth of ammunition?  That doesn't seem wise to me, even if ammunition hasn't substantially changed in the last 100 years and change.  If nothing else, it might be worthwhile to explore the market every generation or so.  Perhaps somebody has a brother-in-law who owns an ammunition company?

[derspiess]

I'd imagine you can get some pretty decent quantity pricing at 1,600,000,000x.

[Darth Wagtaros]

What is it that Homeland Security needs all that firepower?

Do you not want the homeland to be secure? Are you siding with the terrorists???

Well he is either with the terrorists or with the gubmint.  Its a no win situation for our KRonn.

[Neil]

I'd imagine you can get some pretty decent quantity pricing at 1,600,000,000x.

Yeah, but not enough to make it worthwhile.  After all, several hundred million of those rounds will be completely wasted when they go over to phaser guns in 2160.