ACLU Launches Nationwide Police Militarization Investigation

[derspiess]

I can't fit 10 rounds into my revolver anyway, so it doesn't bother me a bit.

So you'd be okay with Maryland reducing the legal mag capacity to 7?

I'll have my dealer send you a copy of his FFL so you can transfer your P38 to me

[garbon]

I've been really put out by the safe act.

[derspiess]

I don't need to hear about you putting out.

[Berkut]

Yeah, but then again you're on record as saying you want the 2nd Amendment repealed, so I'm not surprised to hear you say that.

Last I checked, a musket only held one round. Hard to argue that the Founding Fathers intended for the Second to protect the "right" of a citizen to fire some arbitrary number of rounds, isn't it?

  In fact I guess I should just assume all your views on gun laws to be fringe-left and ignore them.

Fringe left? The idea that we should be able to talk about gun control without reference every ten seconds to crap exactly like this - that the ability to carry 10 rounds instead of 7 is some kind of basic human freedom?

Color me fringe then.

What is funny is that I actually think the law is stupid. But not on the basis of it imposing on anyone's "freedom".

[derspiess]

Last I checked, a musket only held one round. Hard to argue that the Founding Fathers intended for the Second to protect the "right" of a citizen to fire some arbitrary number of rounds, isn't it?

Last I checked, the 2nd Amendment did not state that it was limited to muskets.  Seriously, you're using that retarded argument?

Fringe left? The idea that we should be able to talk about gun control without reference every ten seconds to crap exactly like this - that the ability to carry 10 rounds instead of 7 is some kind of basic human freedom?

Color me fringe then.

Done!

[Valmy]

Done!

Glad we have successfully catagorized Berkut.

[derspiess]

Done!

Glad we have successfully catagorized Berkut.

Helps to do it on an issue-by-issue basis. 

[11B4V]

Yeah, but then again you're on record as saying you want the 2nd Amendment repealed, so I'm not surprised to hear you say that.

Last I checked, a musket only held one round. Hard to argue that the Founding Fathers intended for the Second to protect the "right" of a citizen to fire some arbitrary number of rounds, isn't it?

Lame

[Admiral Yi]

You can double- or even triple-shot a musket.

[Valmy]

You can double- or even triple-shot a musket.

Like...putting three bullets in the barrel?

[Admiral Yi]

Like...putting three bullets in the barrel?

Yup.

[11B4V]

You can double- or even triple-shot a musket.

No Yi, according to Berkut, it doesnt state such, so therefore, no multiple musket balls for you.

[Berkut]

Yeah, but then again you're on record as saying you want the 2nd Amendment repealed, so I'm not surprised to hear you say that.

Last I checked, a musket only held one round. Hard to argue that the Founding Fathers intended for the Second to protect the "right" of a citizen to fire some arbitrary number of rounds, isn't it?

Lame

How so?

What, there isn't ANY restriction on the term "arms" then - since the term can mean anything, then it must mean everything?

That is simply idiotic - even the most ardent gun nut agrees that there are limits, and that the second does NOT guarantee the right of everyone to carry any weapons that can be considered "arms". Therefore pointing out that a gun law specifying that X rounds is ok while Y rounds is not is pretty obviously NOT relevant to the second, since there is no way the numbers of rounds could possibly have been a relevant factor to people who had never even experienced a weapon that could fire more than one round at a time.

This is EXACTLY my point in regards to the second amendment - it is trotted out every single time any law is brought up, even when it obviously does not apply in any real way.

This is a perfect example - we cannot even discuss the SAFE act provisions on magazine capacity (which incidentally I don't even support) without someone bleating on about "freedom", as if "freedom" is defined by the ability to shove 10 rounds in your gun instead of 7, or 50 instead of 30, or 200 instead of 100, or 5 instead of 3.

[Berkut]

You can double- or even triple-shot a musket.

The SAFE act does not in any way restrict your ability to place multiple rounds in the barrel of your weapon. Knock yourself out.

[DGuller]

You can double- or even triple-shot a musket.

The SAFE act does not in any way restrict your ability to place multiple rounds in the barrel of your weapon. Knock yourself out.

In fact, it should be encouraged.