ACLU Launches Nationwide Police Militarization Investigation

[11B4V]

I am a Kentucky Colonel.

Then why the fuck did you close the KFC right outside the base. Shameful.

[11B4V]

People hate the cops until the need one. 

[Valmy]

People hate the cops until the need one. 

I don't

Paying attention to the impacts of unintended government incentives is not the same as hatred.

[11B4V]

People hate the cops until the need one. 

I don't

Paying attention to the impacts of unintended government incentives is not the same as hatred.

Cops are heavily armed in response to society.

[Valmy]

Cops are heavily armed in response to society.

Not really.  Virtually none of the weapons cops are confronted with are more than handguns.  That is just a statistical fact.

[11B4V]

Plus, cops are too fat to join the real military so this is their only chance to wear tactical gear & shoot military grade weapons.

There's that crowd and then there are the ex-military/ex-military police crowd. This militarization thing is perfectly natural for them.

True statement. Ill add..the "type" of former military matters too.  Generally Army/Marines fit your def. of "ex-military". Even though I dislike the term.

[garbon]

People hate the cops until the need one. 

How often to people need one vs. getting jammed up by one?

[11B4V]

People hate the cops until the need one. 

How often to people need one vs. getting jammed up by one?

They wouldnt get jammed up if they werent doing something fucked up.

[garbon]

People hate the cops until the need one. 

How often to people need one vs. getting jammed up by one?

They wouldnt get jammed up if they werent doing something fucked up.

False.

[Strix]

Cops are heavily armed in response to society.

Not really.  Virtually none of the weapons cops are confronted with are more than handguns.  That is just a statistical fact.

And SWAT teams do not regularly patrol the city in full gear. I am not sure of your point here?!?

[11B4V]

Cops are heavily armed in response to society.

Not really.  Virtually none of the weapons cops are confronted with are more than handguns.  That is just a statistical fact.

And SWAT teams do not regularly patrol the city in full gear. I am not sure of your point here?!?

Most departments are putting SWAT trained officers on regular Patrol.

[Strix]

People hate the cops until the need one. 

How often to people need one vs. getting jammed up by one?

They wouldnt get jammed up if they werent doing something fucked up.

False.

That's not false. It doesn't hold true for 100% of the instances but it does have merit. A majority of the shootings and stabbings in Rochester involve groups of people doing fucked up things (drug deals gone bad, screwing each others shorties, disrespect, home invasions looking for drug stashs/money, and so on). Rochester has a lot of crime but most of it involves people engaged in illicit transactions or inappropriate behaviors. 

[11B4V]

Cops are heavily armed in response to society.

Not really.  Virtually none of the weapons cops are confronted with are more than handguns.  That is just a statistical fact.

Clueless really. Why have the regular Patrol officers now generally carry a patrol rifle?..i.e. M4 etc.

[Strix]

Cops are heavily armed in response to society.

Not really.  Virtually none of the weapons cops are confronted with are more than handguns.  That is just a statistical fact.

And SWAT teams do not regularly patrol the city in full gear. I am not sure of your point here?!?

Most departments are putting SWAT trained officers on regular Patrol.

Oh wait, you seem serious.



Of course the SWAT trained officers are on regular patrols. I do not know of any cities that can afford to have a SWAT team that just sits there waiting for a SWAT worthy emergency.

However, the SWAT officers do not go out in their SWAT gear nor do they engage in SWAT tactics while on patrol. They usually have it in the trunk, so they are ready if they get a call.

Rochester has SCUBA trained officers as well (we get a lot of people dying/falling into the Genesee River...remember that if you drink Genny beer of any type) and they don't patrol in their masks, flippers, and tanks either...

[11B4V]

Cops are heavily armed in response to society.

Not really.  Virtually none of the weapons cops are confronted with are more than handguns.  That is just a statistical fact.

And SWAT teams do not regularly patrol the city in full gear. I am not sure of your point here?!?

Most departments are putting SWAT trained officers on regular Patrol.

Oh wait, you seem serious.



Of course the SWAT trained officers are on regular patrols. I do not know of any cities that can afford to have a SWAT team that just sits there waiting for a SWAT worthy emergency.

However, the SWAT officers do not go out in their SWAT gear nor do they engage in SWAT tactics while on patrol. They usually have it in the trunk, so they are ready if they get a call.

Rochester has SCUBA trained officers as well (we get a lot of people dying/falling into the Genesee River...remember that if you drink Genny beer of any type) and they don't patrol in their masks, flippers, and tanks either...

Are you that obtuse. Really.