Naturalist argument against homosexuality

[Viking]

Wait a minute...did mart start another useless gay thread?

Gay related logical fallacy thread

[fhdz]

Wait a minute...did mart start another useless gay thread?

Gay related logical fallacy thread

Yes, be fair, PDH - it's actually a useless naturalism thread.

[Viking]

Wait a minute...did mart start another useless gay thread?

Gay related logical fallacy thread

Yes, be fair, PDH - it's actually a useless naturalism thread.

naturalism hijack

[dps]

To a lesser degree I feel the same about the "inborn" vs. "acquired" debate. To me this is another intellectual red herring. Consenting adults should be free to do whatever they want, as long as they are not harming anyone else. Whether they were born that way or got that way later on should not matter in the slightest.

The problem with this is that whether certain character traits or behaviours that are almost universally considered negative--pedophilia, for example---are inborn, a matter of upbringing, or something else entirely has implications for how children should be raised. 

[Martinus]

To a lesser degree I feel the same about the "inborn" vs. "acquired" debate. To me this is another intellectual red herring. Consenting adults should be free to do whatever they want, as long as they are not harming anyone else. Whether they were born that way or got that way later on should not matter in the slightest.

The problem with this is that whether certain character traits or behaviours that are almost universally considered negative--pedophilia, for example---are inborn, a matter of upbringing, or something else entirely has implications for how children should be raised.

Yes, but it has no implication for whether a person with such traits should be allowed to act on them.

I am not saying that it is useless or irrelevant to examine this scientifically, but I think it has no bearing on the marriage equality debate.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Wait a minute...did mart start another useless gay thread?

Gay related logical fallacy thread

Yes, be fair, PDH - it's actually a useless naturalism thread.

naturalism hijack

He hijacked himself?