Papabile: Papal predictions thread

[Syt]

8 Years really makes a difference

Timmay, bringing misinformation to Languish since 2003!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/innovations/post/about-those-2005-and-2013-photos-of-the-crowds-in-st-peters-square/2013/03/14/aaf1067a-8cf9-11e2-9f54-f3fdd70acad2_blog.html

[Martinus]

This shouldn't really be an issue anyway, because Law should be in prison in the United States.

Yeah. Boohoo, the Pope gives cold shoulder to a criminal who has a cushion retirement in the church.

The low standards the catholic church is measured against over these things reminds me of an old joke about why Stalin is the most charitable man in the world for giving a candy bar to a starving kid who asked for food - because he could have ordered the kid executed instead.

[Solmyr]

Well, that didn't take long: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295241/Argentina-president-Cristina-Kirchner-asks-Pope-Francis-I-intervene-Falklands.html

[derspiess]

Stupid bitch.

[Martinus]

Very nice, moving inauguration homily. No word about the church being a "besieged fortress", no condemnation of liberals and non-believers, just a call to help the week and the poor, as well as some subtle environmentalist hints.

I hope this Pope says gays are the spawn of Satan soon, as I am dangerously close to relapsing. 

[CountDeMoney]

I hope this Pope says gays are the spawn of Satan soon, as I am dangerously close to relapsing. 

Get yourself to church, boy.  A little communion'll do ya some good.  It's good, and it's good fer ya! :brimley:

[garbon]

I hope this Pope says gays are the spawn of Satan soon, as I am dangerously close to relapsing. 

So odd.

[CountDeMoney]

I hope this Pope says gays are the spawn of Satan soon, as I am dangerously close to relapsing. 

So odd.

You can take the gay out of Poland, but you can't take Poland out of the gay.

[Martinus]

I hope this Pope says gays are the spawn of Satan soon, as I am dangerously close to relapsing. 

So odd.

You can take the gay out of Poland, but you can't take Poland out of the gay.

Non-catholics will never get that.

[garbon]

I hope this Pope says gays are the spawn of Satan soon, as I am dangerously close to relapsing. 

So odd.

You can take the gay out of Poland, but you can't take Poland out of the gay.

Non-catholics will never get that.

Never get what exactly though? I mean I've heard this notion that once you are a Catholic, you are always one - but I'm not sure why going to church would have a draw for you if they went neutral on gay issues...unless that's the only bit you take exception with and are actually all about God and the saints and what have you.

[Martinus]

For people raised in Catholic countries, Catholicism is not just religion, but an integral part of your culture. A lot of Catholics also go to church and participate in religious ceremonies despite disagreeing with the official church doctrine not just on social issues, but often on points of religious doctrine (e.g. you may have people who consider themselves Catholics, but believe in reincarnation or think that hell does not exist).

Does it help to explain what I was talking about?

[garbon]

For people raised in Catholic countries, Catholicism is not just religion, but an integral part of your culture. A lot of Catholics also go to church and participate in religious ceremonies despite disagreeing with the official church doctrine not just on social issues, but often on points of religious doctrine (e.g. you may have people who consider themselves Catholics, but believe in reincarnation or think that hell does not exist).

Does it help to explain what I was talking about?

No not really as it doesn't answer my main question or rather skirts it. Are you saying that you believe in God and the saints but just have some exceptions to official doctrine with their stance on gays being a major stumbling block?

[Liep]

For people raised in Catholic countries, Catholicism is not just religion, but an integral part of your culture. A lot of Catholics also go to church and participate in religious ceremonies despite disagreeing with the official church doctrine not just on social issues, but often on points of religious doctrine (e.g. you may have people who consider themselves Catholics, but believe in reincarnation or think that hell does not exist).

Does it help to explain what I was talking about?

No not really as it doesn't answer my main question or rather skirts it. Are you saying that you believe in God and the saints but just have some exceptions to official doctrine with their stance on gays being a major stumbling block?

I think what he's saying is that he could support the catholic church again, if they changed stance on looking at him like the devil. Not necessarily beginning to believe in God again, but just as in being part of that thing Poles do and have done for centuries.

[Martinus]

Yeah. The concept that you have to actively believe in God to be religious is more of a Protestant thing than a Catholic thing - it was Luther was said that faith is a prerequisite to salvation.

Being Catholic is more about ritual and observance than actual faith. It's the closest thing Christianity has come up with to Judaism.

[Admiral Yi]

Actually it was either Paul or Timothy that said salvation comes from faith.