News:

And we're back!

Main Menu

Chuck Hagel for SecDef?

Started by Jacob, January 04, 2013, 06:36:37 PM

Previous topic - Next topic
Print
Go Down Pages1 2 3 4
User actions

Jacob

January 04, 2013, 06:36:37 PM
Is that good, bad, meh? Why?

Admiral Yi

#1
January 04, 2013, 07:16:41 PM
Meh.  Peacetime SecDef is a fall guy if something fucks up.

Eddie Teach

#2
January 04, 2013, 07:34:14 PM
Charles Krauthammer doesn't like it, so I approve.
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

jimmy olsen

#3
January 04, 2013, 07:37:00 PM
There has been some push back against him being nominated from both sides of the aisle. Not sure he'll be able to be confirmed.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/04/16353378-hagel-likely-to-be-nominated-for-defense-secretary-next-week?lite

Quote...Hagel's 2008 statement that "the Jewish lobby" intimidates many lawmakers has drawn criticism from both sides of the aisle, and some have painted him as weak on defense issues. Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York, a top-ranking Jewish senator, passed on the opportunity to offer an endorsement for Hagel during an appearance on Meet the Press, while Republican Sen. John Cornyn called his positions on Iran and nuclear weapons "unacceptable."

Hagel also recently apologized for his 1998 opposition to an ambassadorial nominee whom he described as "openly, aggressively gay."

There are as many as 10 Democratic senators who could vote no, Capitol Hill sources say. But Hagel has some big backers besides the president who would become the key point people in getting Hagel over the finish line – Vice President Joe Biden and Rhode Island Sen. Jack Reed, both of whom are huge proponents of Hagel.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

citizen k

#4
January 04, 2013, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 04, 2013, 07:16:41 PM
Meh.  Peacetime SecDef is a fall guy if something fucks up.

There hasn't been a Peacetime SecDef since 9/11.

Razgovory

#5
January 04, 2013, 08:33:13 PM
He seems like a good choice to me.  What am I missing here.  Actually, I think he might be better as SecState, but that goes to Lurch who I'm not to found of.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

#6
January 04, 2013, 08:33:26 PM
:yawn:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

11B4V

#7
January 04, 2013, 08:57:00 PM
He wont make it.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Neil

#8
January 04, 2013, 09:08:28 PM
Is it a bad thing to can an ambassador for being too gay to operate?  There is a pretty close co-relation between being too gay and being unable to avoid being a complete ass.  Only British gays seem to be able to function.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Neil

#10
January 04, 2013, 10:20:14 PM
At any rate, Obama won and so he should get his guys.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

#11
January 04, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 04, 2013, 10:20:14 PM
At any rate, Obama won and so he should get his guys.

Maybe you should learn more about the country you so desperately wish you were born in.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Neil

#12
January 04, 2013, 10:55:08 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 04, 2013, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on January 04, 2013, 10:20:14 PM
At any rate, Obama won and so he should get his guys.
Maybe you should learn more about the country you so desperately wish you were born in.
:lol:

Wannabe CdM is weak.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Phillip V

#13
January 05, 2013, 03:31:25 AM
I'd like to know his vision for the drawdown of Afghanistan and the overall Defense Department.

Martinus

#14
January 05, 2013, 06:31:33 AM
Quote from: Neil on January 04, 2013, 09:08:28 PM
Is it a bad thing to can an ambassador for being too gay to operate?  There is a pretty close co-relation between being too gay and being unable to avoid being a complete ass.  Only British gays seem to be able to function.

This was an ambassador to Luxembourg though. A complete ass is appropriate.
Print
Go Up Pages1 2 3 4
User actions