Ray Lewis to retire.

[jimmy olsen]

Sandusky and Saville did a lot for charity too. Charity does not get you a pass for committing crimes.

Well it is sort of different if the charity is your vehicle to commit said crimes Tim.  Besides I guess I missed when Sandusky was cleared of the allegations against him.

His soup kitchens obviously exist to facilitate his penchant to stab homeless bums, the most vulnerable of us to said crime. 

[Valmy]

And since we already know he is an admitted liar, why would we accept him at his word?

Maybe because he has also done other things in his life which may give him some cred?  I mean the dude is hardly a spokesperson for a thug life, he works out and does community work.

[CountDeMoney]

His soup kitchens obviously exist to facilitate his penchant to stab homeless bums, the most vulnerable of us to said crime. 

[The Minsky Moment]

  I mean the dude is hardly a spokesperson for a thug life, he works out and does community work.

?

[CountDeMoney]

Minsky works out at the NYAC, and you don't see him as a spokesperson for the Seinfeld life.

[citizen k]

  I mean the dude is hardly a spokesperson for a thug life, he works out and does community work.

?

[HVC]

  I mean the dude is hardly a spokesperson for a thug life, he works out and does community work.

?

healthy body healthy soul?

[Eddie Teach]

Clearly not a spokesperson for thug life.

[Razgovory]

Let me clear up this misconception.

I am suspicious of Ray Lewis.  Not people in general.

Well, you've said the same thing about people not being "cleared" many times before.  Not just with Ray Lewis.  It kinda feels creepy.

[sbr]

Let me clear up this misconception.

I am suspicious of Ray Lewis.  Not people in general.

Well, you've said the same thing about people not being "cleared" many times before.  Not just with Ray Lewis.  It kinda feels creepy.

Have you been cleared? 

[Razgovory]

I thought I was, but it may have been a case of not enough evidence to prosecute.   Or maybe the Frat boys did not want to press charges.

[Neil]

Meh.  You overlook crimes even more serious than murder when it comes to your own heroes, so suck it.

No, I don't.

Funny how obvious you all are with your personal attacks when your Saint Lewis is questioned.

Yes you do.  George Washington, for example.

I like to think that I'm always pretty obvious with my personal attacks.  Isn't that the whole point?

At any rate, even if Ray stabbed them himself (which seems pretty unlikely), the good he's done is worth far more than a couple of human lives, especially the lives of those two.

[The Minsky Moment]

Well, you've said the same thing about people not being "cleared" many times before.  Not just with Ray Lewis.  It kinda feels creepy.

You're being paranoid.
All he is saying is that the mere fact that charges aren't brought doesn't prove innocence.  Only that prosecutors elected not to use their discretion to prosecute for one reason or another - typically because they don't think there is sufficient evidence to meet the standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. 

[Razgovory]

Well, you've said the same thing about people not being "cleared" many times before.  Not just with Ray Lewis.  It kinda feels creepy.

You're being paranoid.
All he is saying is that the mere fact that charges aren't brought doesn't prove innocence.  Only that prosecutors elected not to use their discretion to prosecute for one reason or another - typically because they don't think there is sufficient evidence to meet the standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

Well that is what I do.  I just get the feeling that Barrister looks at everyone as a potential conviction.

[The Minsky Moment]

Well that is what I do.  I just get the feeling that Barrister looks at everyone as a potential conviction.

That's the beautiful thing about the criminal justice system.  You don't have to be "cleared".  You don't have to demonstrate innocence.  You are innocent by presumption.