The 2013 NFL Playoffs? PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS??? Morathread

Started by CountDeMoney, January 02, 2013, 08:38:12 AM

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Valmy

Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
Technically according to the rules it was a penalty, he had a hold of him after 5 yards.  I think it was a good no call though.  The ball was un-catchable, Crabtree ran a lazy route and initiated contact, they didn't call that stuff all game, etc.

To me that was the big thing, if the receiver runs up to you and tries to shove you out of the way...what are you supposed to do just fall down and let him catch it?  I mean I know the NFL loves offense but please.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2013, 11:02:07 AM
Besides, when a wide receiver like Michael Irvin says it should've been flagged, and a defensive back Deion Sanders says it shouldn't have, then I know the decision not to throw the flag was correct.

No kidding.  King push-off himself.
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Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2013, 11:00:08 AM
Technically according to the rules it was a penalty, he had a hold of him after 5 yards.  I think it was a good no call though.  The ball was un-catchable, Crabtree ran a lazy route and initiated contact, they didn't call that stuff all game, etc.

That's what Mooch said as well;  the way the refs were calling the game, the level of contact had already been established by them, and they let them play.
I felt that, if that kind of contact warranted a flag on that play, then at best both players could've been called on it.  Defensive holding versus offensive PI would've resulted in a do-over.

But I think it was an uncatchable ball as well.  Look at the arc on the replay and where the ball landed, I don't see how Crabtree could've come down in bounds with it anyhow.

sbr

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2013, 11:02:07 AM
Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
Hey Seedy, callers on ESPN Radio are saying the refs were making sure the NFL's favorite team won the game by missing calls on the last 49ers drive. :D

Pfft.  Troll failed.  :P

Besides, when a wide receiver like Michael Irvin says it should've been flagged, and a defensive back Deion Sanders says it shouldn't have, then I know the decision not to throw the flag was correct.

Who was trolling?  Two straight callers into Colin Cowherd said the officials intentionally gave the game to the Ravens and one even said they were 'protecting the NFL's posterchld'.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on February 04, 2013, 11:04:25 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2013, 11:02:07 AM
Besides, when a wide receiver like Michael Irvin says it should've been flagged, and a defensive back Deion Sanders says it shouldn't have, then I know the decision not to throw the flag was correct.

No kidding.  King push-off himself.

And Deion said it best when he said Crabtree's complete non-reaction after the play said it all:  what wide receiver in the NFL doesn't freak out if he thinks he's interfered with?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2013, 11:07:55 AM
Who was trolling?
Raven Hater Nation.

QuoteTwo straight callers into Colin Cowherd said the officials intentionally gave the game to the Ravens and one even said they were 'protecting the NFL's posterchld'.

If anybody besides Berkut is relieved that Ray Lewis is retiring, I think it would be Commissioner Goodell.  :D That way, the league can be all Brady-Manning-Rapistburger, all the time. :D

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2013, 11:06:54 AM
But I think it was an uncatchable ball as well.  Look at the arc on the replay and where the ball landed, I don't see how Crabtree could've come down in bounds with it anyhow.

From the initial camera angle it looked to me like it was uncatchable (plus as I said before it looked like there was mutual contact).  But on one of the field-level camera replays it looked very much catchable had he not been held.  Looking at this one play in a vacuum it should have been called, but given how they were letting them play most of the day it was probably an okay non-call. 

I definitely wouldn't blame an SF fan for being pissed about it, though.
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sbr

And the 49ers radio guys never said anything either, they just blamed Kap

derspiess

Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
And the 49ers radio guys never said anything either, they just blamed Kap

Don't see how it was his fault.  It was a shitty play to call in the first place.
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Valmy

Quote from: derspiess on February 04, 2013, 11:11:56 AM
I definitely wouldn't blame an SF fan for being pissed about it, though.

If I were a SF fan I would be far more upset about the play calling down there and wasting time outs.  Besides with Baltimore blitzing everybody all Kap could do was throw to a well covered Crabtree on three straight plays?  Nobody was open?
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Quote from: derspiess on February 04, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
And the 49ers radio guys never said anything either, they just blamed Kap

Don't see how it was his fault.  It was a shitty play to call in the first place.

Blamed Kap wasn't quote right but I was on my phone and being lazy.  IIRC they just said incomplete pass and it never had a chance.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on February 04, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: sbr on February 04, 2013, 11:12:07 AM
And the 49ers radio guys never said anything either, they just blamed Kap

Don't see how it was his fault.  It was a shitty play to call in the first place.

I was telling Kat in World of Tanks this AM that, if Kaper had run even once in those final 2 downs instead of passing, they'd have been in the lead with a minute left to go.

Crappy play calling considering the time left, but the Ravens bull rushed the kid up the middle with everything intent on making Kaper beat them with a pass, and he had no choice but to toss it up too quickly on an incredibly compressed field;  if they had 5 more yards of space, Kaper may have been able to get a better pass off.   Can't blame him at all on that.

derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on February 04, 2013, 11:14:41 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 04, 2013, 11:11:56 AM
I definitely wouldn't blame an SF fan for being pissed about it, though.

If I were a SF fan I would be far more upset about the play calling down there and wasting time outs.  Besides with Baltimore blitzing everybody all Kap could do was throw to a well covered Crabtree on three straight plays?  Nobody was open?

Well I didn't say they could only be pissed about one thing.  Yeah-- the other stuff, too.
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I noticed that on the safety, Baltimore was holding like crazy. It seems the players were told to do whatever it took to give maximum time to the punter, damn the rules. However, I don't think a flag was thrown. It didn't make any difference on that play, but it still illustrates a point: the refs weren't going to make any call that late in the game unless they absolutely had to.
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