Two conservative Republicans booted from House budget panel

[Maximus]

My point is that if both sides feel as though they got screwed it'll be a good compromise.

If they agree on exploding a nuclear device in Washington DC, I'm sure both sides would be unhappy with that compromise.  That wouldn't make it a good compromise for the country.

Perhaps not the best example.

[Razgovory]

At this rate I think a compromise is inevitible.  And the GOP will get screwwwwwed.

Why, is compromise against the core tenets of the Republican Party?

Not as such, but Republicans tend to dislike compromise more then Democrats.  http://www.gallup.com/poll/144359/democrats-republicans-differ-views-compromise.aspx

[merithyn]

My point is that if both sides feel as though they got screwed it'll be a good compromise.

If they agree on exploding a nuclear device in Washington DC, I'm sure both sides would be unhappy with that compromise.  That wouldn't make it a good compromise for the country.

And I'm done.

[Razgovory]

You could have responded to mine, which has a less retarded scenario.  You statement only really works if you hold to an adversarial zero-sum view of the world.  On one hand there is the noble American people and on the other evil, corrupt politicians.  If the Politicians are unhappy it means they have been thwarted and outcome is bound to be good for the noble American people.

[MadImmortalMan]

My point is that if both sides feel as though they got screwed it'll be a good compromise.

If they agree on exploding a nuclear device in Washington DC, I'm sure both sides would be unhappy with that compromise.  That wouldn't make it a good compromise for the country.

Are you sure? 

[MadImmortalMan]

Not as such, but Republicans tend to dislike compromise more then Democrats.  http://www.gallup.com/poll/144359/democrats-republicans-differ-views-compromise.aspx

They are largely of the opinion that their attempts to compromise in the past got them betrayed in the end.

[Razgovory]

Not as such, but Republicans tend to dislike compromise more then Democrats.  http://www.gallup.com/poll/144359/democrats-republicans-differ-views-compromise.aspx

They are largely of the opinion that their attempts to compromise in the past got them betrayed in the end.

Who is "they"?

[merithyn]

You could have responded to mine, which has a less retarded scenario.  You statement only really works if you hold to an adversarial zero-sum view of the world.  On one hand there is the noble American people and on the other evil, corrupt politicians.  If the Politicians are unhappy it means they have been thwarted and outcome is bound to be good for the noble American people.

In general, when you've got two very different, very divisive views on how something should be done, if both sides walk away feeling as though they've given too much, most likely each side has given the right amount.

[MadImmortalMan]

Who is "they"?

Conservative republicans.

[Razgovory]

You could have responded to mine, which has a less retarded scenario.  You statement only really works if you hold to an adversarial zero-sum view of the world.  On one hand there is the noble American people and on the other evil, corrupt politicians.  If the Politicians are unhappy it means they have been thwarted and outcome is bound to be good for the noble American people.

In general, when you've got two very different, very divisive views on how something should be done, if both sides walk away feeling as though they've given too much, most likely each side has given the right amount.

Why would you think this?  Would it not be better if they both came away satisfied?

[Razgovory]

Who is "they"?

Conservative republicans.

Okay, I didn't know.  Would make sense, they are a conspiratorial bunch.

[merithyn]

Why would you think this?  Would it not be better if they both came away satisfied?

Yes, it would be better, but I do not believe that it will ever happen with the US Congress and Senate. Ever.

They're children who want things their own way, and any other way is just plain wrong. If both the Dems and the Repubs walk away thinking they got screwed, there's a really good chance that the American people might actually win for once.

And yes, I have that poor of an opinion of the US government.

[Razgovory]

Why would you think this?  Would it not be better if they both came away satisfied?

Yes, it would be better, but I do not believe that it will ever happen with the US Congress and Senate. Ever.

They're children who want things their own way, and any other way is just plain wrong. If both the Dems and the Repubs walk away thinking they got screwed, there's a really good chance that the American people might actually win for once.

And yes, I have that poor of an opinion of the US government.

Ah, well I right then.  You have a simplistic zero-sum view of the world where evil politicians are at odds with the noble American people.   I'm not sure what else to say.

[merithyn]

Why would you think this?  Would it not be better if they both came away satisfied?

Yes, it would be better, but I do not believe that it will ever happen with the US Congress and Senate. Ever.

They're children who want things their own way, and any other way is just plain wrong. If both the Dems and the Repubs walk away thinking they got screwed, there's a really good chance that the American people might actually win for once.

And yes, I have that poor of an opinion of the US government.

Ah, well I right then.  You have a simplistic zero-sum view of the world where evil politicians are at odds with the noble American people.   I'm not sure what else to say.

You could read it that way. Or you could read it as that I believe that politicians are children, their parties are pushing them into a zero-sum situation, and they cannot be happy unless they get everything they want.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, that's not really different then the way I read it except the negative attribute is childish rather then evil.  It's a sophomoric view.