The war on men

[Valmy]

They have a lot less ability to pick & choose.  I think Malthus's point (it was my point at least) was that you can be a below-average looking guy and still get with above-average looking girls. 

Oh ok.  I thought this was about getting 'plenty of action'.  Ugly women can get plenty of action.  Then you moved the goal posts on me

[garbon]

They have a lot less ability to pick & choose.  I think Malthus's point (it was my point at least) was that you can be a below-average looking guy and still get with above-average looking girls. 

Oh ok.  I thought this was about getting 'plenty of action'.  Ugly women can get plenty of action.  Then you moved the goal posts on me

Malthus just did the same to me!

[Malthus]

Oh ok.  I thought this was about getting 'plenty of action'.  Ugly women can get plenty of action.  Then you moved the goal posts on me

Conversation moved on to the ugliness of various Languish guys. 

[dps]

Meh, I'm both ugly and poor, and I do OK.

[garbon]

Meh, I'm both ugly and poor, and I do OK.

You also had to put up with a helluva lot of drama!

[Martinus]

Meh, I'm both ugly and poor, and I do OK.

Yeah. You just need to fuck crazy.

[Martinus]

Or to put it differently - the ideal is a trifecta: pretty/handsome, rich, sane. Most people are willing to settle for two. If you are poor and ugly and want to date pretty, though, you gotta go for crazy and poor.

[Malthus]

Or to put it differently - the ideal is a trifecta: pretty/handsome, rich, sane. Most people are willing to settle for two. If you are poor and ugly and want to date pretty, though, you gotta go for crazy and poor.

Heh, I like it.  Though that trifecta doesn't leave room for "charming/fun/confident personality" - with for hetero guys at least, is a key factor in terms of dating success. 

[merithyn]

Or to put it differently - the ideal is a trifecta: pretty/handsome, rich, sane. Most people are willing to settle for two. If you are poor and ugly and want to date pretty, though, you gotta go for crazy and poor.

Heh, I like it.  Though that trifecta doesn't leave room for "charming/fun/confident personality" - with for hetero guys at least, is a key factor in terms of dating success. 

Actually, that will often make up for looks/money quicker than just about anything else.

[derspiess]

Man, it's been a while since I had to pretend to be charming.  I got pretty good at it in my day, though.

[Martinus]

Or to put it differently - the ideal is a trifecta: pretty/handsome, rich, sane. Most people are willing to settle for two. If you are poor and ugly and want to date pretty, though, you gotta go for crazy and poor.

Heh, I like it.  Though that trifecta doesn't leave room for "charming/fun/confident personality" - with for hetero guys at least, is a key factor in terms of dating success. 

I think this is part of "sane" (being the opposite of "crazy bitch").

[Malthus]

Actually, that will often make up for looks/money quicker than just about anything else.

That's what I banked on when I was dating  (decades ago now) - I've never been great looking, and when I was dating I was poor as shit with no prospects for anything different (first as a university student, then as a potter's apprentice). I made money *after* I already was going out with my wife.

Of course, I lost my charm since then, and started to post on Languish. 

An analysis of my sanity I leave to others. 

[Malthus]

I think this is part of "sane" (being the opposite of "crazy bitch").

I've known too many insane-but-charming people ... 

Indeed, more seriously, a certain type of sociopath is characterised by being (initially) extremely charming and confident.

[Viking]

So you take issue with the notion that a good proportion of women rank as Viking said "No, they go for social and economic traits." ?

Remember my caveat "except during ovulation". I'm not handsome but I do have quite a few of the brute barbaric physical traits, tall, muscular, healthy hair and skin as well as an ability to put on a fake bluff confidence from time to time. So in my case well over half my one night stands have been with women otherwise formally attached to other men.

[merithyn]

So you take issue with the notion that a good proportion of women rank as Viking said "No, they go for social and economic traits." ?

Remember my caveat "except during ovulation". I'm not handsome but I do have quite a few of the brute barbaric physical traits, tall, muscular, healthy hair and skin as well as an ability to put on a fake bluff confidence from time to time. So in my case well over half my one night stands have been with women otherwise formally attached to other men.

And that, my friends, is a slut.