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NFL Week 12 - Happy Mediocre Football Day

Started by Neil, November 22, 2012, 09:21:08 AM

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Valmy

In the unlikely event the Redskins manage to beat the Giants and the Ravens the next two weeks I think they have a shot.  Any other result and it is over.
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CountDeMoney

The dude is just Superman.

QuoteRay Lewis, the Ravens' 13-time Pro Bowl inside linebacker, could return to practice as early as this week. Coach John Harbaugh said Monday afternoon that Lewis, who has missed the last five games after tearing his right triceps in the team's 31-29 win against the Dallas Cowboys on Oct. 14, is eligible to be activated from injured reserve-designated to return this week. Without saying that Lewis would practice Thursday — the first day he is eligible to do so — Harbaugh said the 37-year-old linebacker is on pace to return earlier than anticipated.

"I just have so much confidence in who Ray is as a person and as a man," Harbaugh said. "And it's the same thing for Suggs. The thing ... is, these guys are physically genetic, special DNA-type guys. ... And they work harder than anybody in this room physically, that's for sure. So give credit where credit is due, and we'll just see how Ray does. But I know one thing: he's working harder than any of us can imagine to try to get back and get healthy."

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on November 26, 2012, 10:17:45 PM
I really had the season written-off after the Denver loss.  Don't know how it will end, but it's a nice turn-around to have a winning record and be tied with the sliding Stillers for the second wild card spot.

Yeah, the Bengals look like they've definitely woken up a bit, and are primed to pass the Steelers on the way up if they can keep their shit together.

But it's wait and see:  there's a reason the Steelers are the Steelers, and the Bengals are the Bengals.  Shit always seems to level out that way.

Sophie Scholl

First place!  I doubt I'll finish there when all id settled, but I'll enjoy it while I can. :cool:
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katmai

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on November 27, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
First place!  I doubt I'll finish there when all id settled, but I'll enjoy it while I can. :cool:
Suck it Frunk! :P
QuoteFrozen Wetbacks (8-4, 1,038 points) managed to sneak past Fricken Lasers, 68 - 67, in spite of scoring just the 15th-highest point total in the league this week. With this victory, Frozen Wetbacks clinches a spot in the playoffs. Frozen Wetbacks also got just 78.6% of their 86.50-points-per-matchup season average. This is the second lucky win for Frozen Wetbacks this season, who took down The BurgerMakers! 72 - 71 in Week 5. Frozen Wetbacks has had some beneficial matchups overall, currently in fourth place even though they rank just 11th in total points
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jimmy olsen

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Looks like the Iggles are gonna blow it all up! He ain't playing up to last years level, but Babin sure isn't the reason their defense sucks. Must be a money issue.

Who do you think will pick him up?

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frunk

Quote from: katmai on November 27, 2012, 07:40:40 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on November 27, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
First place!  I doubt I'll finish there when all id settled, but I'll enjoy it while I can. :cool:
Suck it Frunk! :P
QuoteFrozen Wetbacks (8-4, 1,038 points) managed to sneak past Fricken Lasers, 68 - 67, in spite of scoring just the 15th-highest point total in the league this week. With this victory, Frozen Wetbacks clinches a spot in the playoffs. Frozen Wetbacks also got just 78.6% of their 86.50-points-per-matchup season average. This is the second lucky win for Frozen Wetbacks this season, who took down The BurgerMakers! 72 - 71 in Week 5. Frozen Wetbacks has had some beneficial matchups overall, currently in fourth place even though they rank just 11th in total points

My team's been sucking all season, so nothing new.  :(

FunkMonk

QuoteMeatheads overachieved and improves to 6-0-1 when doing so, while Ochocinco EightSixed fell short of their projection. They are now 3-5 when scoring less than expected.

My team of overachievers are in third. I'm so proud of them.  :cry:
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Alcibiades

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--john-harbaugh-kept-ravens-on-track-despite--mutiny--at-practice-in-october--164505133.html

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Coach John Harbaugh kept Ravens on track despite 'mutiny' at meeting in October

When the Baltimore Ravens showed up for work on Halloween morning, coach John Harbaugh presented them with a piece of news that was the football equivalent of passing out parched apple slices to trick-or-treaters: The Ravens would be practicing in full pads later that afternoon.
Groans filled the auditorium at the team's training facility. October had been a rough month for Baltimore, which 10 days earlier had suffered a 43-13 defeat to the Houston Texans — the most lopsided loss in Harbaugh's five seasons as coach — before taking a bye-week break. The Ravens' most respected leader, legendary linebacker Ray Lewis, was back at home in Florida, having suffered a torn triceps on Oct. 14 that seemed destined to end his season.
Practicing in pads did not go over well with some of Baltimore's other veterans, including safeties Ed Reed and Bernard Pollard, and several of them openly challenged Harbaugh's edict. Rather than squashing the mini-uprising, the coach welcomed the dialogue and solicited additional criticism. Soon, the meeting turned surreal, as the subject shifted to Harbaugh's treatment of his players and perceived mood swings.


"It was practically a mutiny," one Ravens player recalled. "It came very close to getting out of control. But the way Coach Harbaugh handled it was amazing. He let people have their say, and he listened, and he explained himself, and pretty soon it was like a big group-therapy session. In the end, a lot of positive things were said. We didn't practice in pads, but we came out of there stronger as a group."
Designating Harbaugh's deft handling of that emotional give-and-take as the pivotal moment of the Ravens' season might be difficult to prove in a court of law. However, there's no question that the 50-year-old coach's leadership has been a key element of Baltimore's 9-2 start, tied for the best in the franchise's 16-year history.
Coming off a campaign in which they narrowly missed a trip to the Super Bowl, the rejuvenated Ravens are 4-0 in November, having pulled out an overtime victory over the San Diego Chargers at Qualcomm Stadium last Sunday after halfback Ray Rice converted a semi-miraculous fourth-and-29 off a screen pass. With a three-game lead over the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals in the AFC North, Baltimore appears headed for its fifth consecutive postseason appearance under Harbaugh, perhaps the league's most underrated authority figure.
If the older and less celebrated of the NFL's first pair of head-coaching brothers wasn't secure and evolved enough to tolerate feedback from some of the league's most strong-willed and vocal players, the Ravens wouldn't have won more than 70 percent of their regular-season games (53-22) and reached two AFC championship games since he replaced Brian Billick following the 2007 season.

Because no NFL player of this era is as influential within his team context as Lewis — and given the presence of other decorated veterans (Reed, pass rusher Terrell Suggs, wideout Anquan Boldin) with big personalities — coaching in Baltimore is a unique challenge. Harbaugh, who had no experience as a head coach or offensive or defensive coordinator on any level, has managed to provide assertive leadership without drowning out dissenting voices.
On Sunday in San Diego, after wideout Torrey Smith caught a 31-yard pass from quarterback Joe Flacco to give the Ravens a first down at the Chargers' 16-yard line with two minutes remaining in overtime, Harbaugh huddled on the field with a small group that included offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, Boldin and Flacco. Boldin exhorted the coach to summon the field-goal unit immediately. "Let's end this now," Boldin yelled, "and get the [expletive] out of here!"


Boldin is not a subtle man, but Harbaugh had other ideas: Seeking to mitigate the possibility of a San Diego score should Ravens rookie Justin Tucker miss the kick, he had Flacco take a knee on three successive downs, forcing the Chargers to burn their remaining timeouts and draining another 42 seconds off the clock.
Forty-five minutes after Tucker drilled his 38-yard game-winner, Harbaugh sat in the cramped coaches' locker room at Qualcomm and reflected upon his willingness to let his players be heard.
"Well, I don't know about [being] secure enough or anything like that, but I think it's really important to let them be them," he said. "And to me, the more I'm able to give them leadership, the stronger that we all are together, as leaders.
"I don't know how to put it in words, and maybe someday there'll be a way to express it, but we have such great leaders. You've got to let 'em lead, but you also have to lead 'em, you have to direct them, and someone's gotta make decisions. But, we've just got some incredibly strong men on this team. I mean I could tell you some stories, but I'd probably rather not."
Given the opening, I brought up the story about the contentious team meeting that turned into a Dr. Phil episode. When Harbaugh convened that gathering on Halloween morning, he probably thought it would be uneventful. However, the resistance to practicing in pads triggered a scab-pulling session that he navigated with a firm but refreshingly fallible touch.
"I've never seen a head coach handle anything like that as well as he did," said a Ravens assistant who attended the meeting. "There were some things said where we were like, Damn.
"A lot of coaches would have acted like dictators and been very sensitive about the way their authority was being questioned. John said, 'Hey, let's talk about this.' He showed great leadership. Instead of worrying that it would make him seem weak, he turned it into a strength."
[More: Bobby Hebert connects with fans, ruffles feathers in Big Easy]
According to witnesses, the subjects discussed included a proposed shift to a no-huddle offense (pushed by Cameron) and some players' perceptions of Harbaugh's demeanor as uneven. When some Ravens told the coach he had been overly brusque and negative on certain occasions, he asked for examples and eventually owned up to his behavior.
"He said, 'I don't remember saying that, but if I did I apologize,' " the Ravens assistant said. "He said, 'Hey, you know what? That was in the heat of the moment, and I was wrong.'
"John's great quality is that even if he goes down the wrong street, he's willing to say, 'I went down the wrong street' and correct it with the team. Whereas other coaches are so damn stubborn, they won't admit they were wrong, and it splinters the team."
By meeting's end Flacco and linebacker Jameel McClain had given constructive speeches that helped bring the team together, and Harbaugh actually felt enriched by the experience.
"I wasn't threatened by it," Harbaugh said. "That's the main thing. And, you know, they had some good points, and I had some good points. Other guys stood up and said some great things. To me, it embodied everything that you should have on a team.
"The point was that, we have what I call 'Open Mic,' and we can all say anything that we need to say and have to say. You know then that you're responsible — when you say it, everybody's gonna hear it, so you'd better make it your best stuff.
"That brings out the best. Otherwise, it's 'Why are they sneaking around talking behind corners?' You know what I mean? If you've got something, you put it right out here in front of me. I'm man enough to handle it. If you're right, then you're right! It's OK to be right. But more important it's OK to be wrong. And it's OK for me to be wrong, too."


Certainly, Harbaugh has grown into his role. Early on in the coach's tenure some Ravens considered him hokey and overly combative. Two seasons ago, Harbaugh famously had his players' cleats spray-painted black in an effort to make them look tougher, resulting in eye-rolls all around.
If that stunt seemed patronizing to some Ravens, it has long since faded in their memories. They now see a coach who treats his players like men and has their backs publicly (as evidenced by his "Pay the Man" endorsement early in the 2012 season of Flacco, who is seeking a lucrative contract extension) and privately, even when they call him out in front of their peers. While Harbaugh's kid brother, Jim, makes headlines in San Francisco for an abrupt quarterback switch the 49ers' coach won't even publicly acknowledge), John has become the patron saint of unvarnished discourse.
"I've got a rule: I never, ever, ever hold a grudge," Harbaugh said. "And I kind of have a rule that nobody else is allowed to hold a grudge, either. There are no grudges. We're a bunch of guys. We don't hold grudges. Right? We move on."
With the Ravens moving toward a second consecutive division title — Baltimore can take a major step in that direction by beating the Steelers at M&T Bank Stadium on Sunday — they can look back to that Halloween hell-raising session as a galvanizing moment. And, in retrospect, they may reflect on Harbaugh's decision to rescind his padded-practice decree as a counterintuitive stroke of genius.
Upon the conclusion of that Wednesday's spirited afternoon workout, as the team knelt in a circle to hear the coach's closing remarks, Reed stood up and said, "Hey, if we were gonna practice this way, we should have practiced in pads."
No worries, Ed: As Harbaugh would say, it's OK to be wrong.

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CountDeMoney

Heh, good piece.  Didn't know about that incident.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 28, 2012, 02:25:47 PM
Heh, good piece.  Didn't know about that incident.

I can see that going disastrously wrong for so many other teams :D
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Sophie Scholl

Placed a bid on some Bills tickets.  Roughly $5 for 50 yard line 13th row?  Yeah, I'll see an NFL game for that rate, even if it is Jacksonville-Buffalo.  Here's to hoping I win. :lol:
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"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Neil

Quote from: Alcibiades on November 28, 2012, 02:02:30 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--john-harbaugh-kept-ravens-on-track-despite--mutiny--at-practice-in-october--164505133.html
Yeah, I read that today.  Really interesting, and really shows a side of John Harbaugh that I like.

I guess it's easy to not feel threatened when you've put together the most consistently winning teams that the Ravens have ever had and have them in range of a title run.
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