Different Perceptions of Reality in the US Presidential Election

Started by Jacob, November 02, 2012, 12:55:16 AM

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garbon

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11B4V

IMO, I believe this country will see an armed insurrection in my lifetime.
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DGuller

Quote from: 11B4V on November 03, 2012, 01:30:53 AM
IMO, I believe this country will see an armed insurrection in my lifetime.
I believe that's a strong possibility as well.  It seems like half of Americans are living in an increasingly different reality from the other half, and in the long run the potential is there for tensions to boil over.  In the age of cable news networks and Internet, there is enough information out there that anyone can cherrypick enough of it to reinforce their echo chambers.

Phillip V

Quote from: 11B4V on November 03, 2012, 01:30:53 AM
IMO, I believe this country will see an armed insurrection in my lifetime.
Trigger/conditions?

The Brain

Quote from: DGuller on November 03, 2012, 01:37:49 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on November 03, 2012, 01:30:53 AM
IMO, I believe this country will see an armed insurrection in my lifetime.
I believe that's a strong possibility as well.  It seems like half of Americans are living in an increasingly different reality from the other half, and in the long run the potential is there for tensions to boil over.  In the age of cable news networks and Internet, there is enough information out there that anyone can cherrypick enough of it to reinforce their echo chambers.

If they live in a different reality how could they affect the rest of us?
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Eddie Teach

Depending on the scope there have already been a few. Waco for instance.
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Queequeg

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 02, 2012, 10:33:07 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on November 02, 2012, 10:16:33 PM
Sheilbh, a lot of the criticism of Silver makes me really uncomfortable. He's gay, Jewish and not particularly charismatic. A lot of the Republican "he's not a real man" shtick has a Der Stürmer vibe.
I didn't know he was gay, though he does have a slight gay vicar vibe to him - though so do I and so does Nigel Slater and I love him.  For me I think he's with Klein and Yglesias.  Their tone, when they write, or when they're on TV is arrogant and unpleasantly so, they come across contemptuous.
I wasn't accusing you of homophobia, but rather that I think a lot of the specific rhetoric used against Silver is really peculiarly nasty.   
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Nate Silver is a man of very small stature, a thin and effeminate man with a soft-sounding voice that sounds almost exactly like the "Mr. New Castrati" voice used by Rush Limbaugh on his program. In fact, Silver could easily be the poster child for the New Castrati in both image and sound. Nate Silver, like most liberal and leftist celebrities and favorites, might be of average intelligence but is surely not the genius he's made out to be.

This is really, really nasty.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
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garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Queequeg

Garbon apologizing for raging homophobe conservative.  Film at 11.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

garbon

Not apologizing as it's inappropriate. Just saying that you're doing your typical drama queen thing.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Scipio

Quote from: garbon on November 03, 2012, 03:26:35 PM
Not apologizing as it's inappropriate. Just saying that you're doing your typical drama queen thing.
I think drama queen as a criticism of Spellus is quite constrained.  He is after all the guy who crosses the street when he sees a Turk is following him.
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Kleves

Speaking of Silver, he's called the race for Obama, unless all the polls are systematically biased (which he says is a 16% chance).
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derspiess

Quote from: Kleves on November 03, 2012, 05:15:59 PM
Speaking of Silver, he's called the race for Obama, unless all the polls are systematically biased (which he says is a 16% chance).

Hear that, Obama voters?  No need to go put and vote now.  It's in the bag.
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Queequeg

Quote from: Scipio on November 03, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 03, 2012, 03:26:35 PM
Not apologizing as it's inappropriate. Just saying that you're doing your typical drama queen thing.
I think drama queen as a criticism of Spellus is quite constrained.  He is after all the guy who crosses the street when he sees a Turk is following him.
:rolleyes:
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Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Habbaku

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