Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Josquius

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 10, 2024, 10:46:57 AMThe Russians are attacking Kharkiv again. From the north, as has been hinted at for the past few weeks

As I said a page or two back and was shouted down.
Hopefully Ukraine was prepared enough for it. Opening new fronts does seem to be to Russia's advantage.
I guess/hope Russia are just doing this to try and grab all they can before Ukraine is fully rearmed rather than genuinely seeing serious opportunity for a breakthrough.
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Barrister

Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 10, 2024, 10:46:57 AMThe Russians are attacking Kharkiv again. From the north, as has been hinted at for the past few weeks

As I said a page or two back and was shouted down.
Hopefully Ukraine was prepared enough for it. Opening new fronts does seem to be to Russia's advantage.
I guess/hope Russia are just doing this to try and grab all they can before Ukraine is fully rearmed rather than genuinely seeing serious opportunity for a breakthrough.

I'm not a military guy, but I'm not so sure.  Ukraine is the one defending, it's supply lines are short.  It's relatively easy for Ukraine to pull units from the south to the north.  Russia is attacking.  It's supply lines are long.  It's much further for them to move a unit from the south to the north.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Josquius

Quote from: Barrister on May 10, 2024, 11:09:10 AM
Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 10, 2024, 10:46:57 AMThe Russians are attacking Kharkiv again. From the north, as has been hinted at for the past few weeks

As I said a page or two back and was shouted down.
Hopefully Ukraine was prepared enough for it. Opening new fronts does seem to be to Russia's advantage.
I guess/hope Russia are just doing this to try and grab all they can before Ukraine is fully rearmed rather than genuinely seeing serious opportunity for a breakthrough.

I'm not a military guy, but I'm not so sure.  Ukraine is the one defending, it's supply lines are short.  It's relatively easy for Ukraine to pull units from the south to the north.  Russia is attacking.  It's supply lines are long.  It's much further for them to move a unit from the south to the north.

Juggling units around the "bulge" of Ukraine would be a pain for them for sure.
However Russias supply lines are pretty short coming straight from Russia and most critically Ukraine has big manpower problems at the moment.
When you've got numbers but not quality then you need maximum contact points to push your advantage
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Crazy_Ivan80


Josquius

I've not seen it myself but I've heard there's videos floating about of a recent Ukrainian counter attack in the East using Bradleys in desert camoflague colours - which is a big hint that the US aid is reaching the front.
Though weird the US wouldn't have painted them while they waited in Europe.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Barrister on May 10, 2024, 11:09:10 AM
Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 10, 2024, 10:46:57 AMThe Russians are attacking Kharkiv again. From the north, as has been hinted at for the past few weeks

As I said a page or two back and was shouted down.
Hopefully Ukraine was prepared enough for it. Opening new fronts does seem to be to Russia's advantage.
I guess/hope Russia are just doing this to try and grab all they can before Ukraine is fully rearmed rather than genuinely seeing serious opportunity for a breakthrough.

I'm not a military guy, but I'm not so sure.  Ukraine is the one defending, it's supply lines are short.  It's relatively easy for Ukraine to pull units from the south to the north.  Russia is attacking.  It's supply lines are long.  It's much further for them to move a unit from the south to the north.

Where do you think the Russians are drawing their supply?

grumbler

Quote from: Josquius on May 10, 2024, 10:54:52 AMAs I said a page or two back and was shouted down.

Jos nails himself to the cross again.  :lol:

You were not "shouted down," you were simply challenged on your misreading of the source you provided.
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