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Elon Musk: Always A Douche

Started by garbon, July 15, 2018, 07:01:42 PM

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grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on August 11, 2022, 03:22:48 PM
QuoteHe has a history of floating false solutions to the drawbacks of our over-reliance on cars that stifle efforts to give people other options. The Boring Company was supposed to solve traffic, not be the Las Vegas amusement ride it is now. As I've written in my book, Musk admitted to his biographer Ashlee Vance that Hyperloop was all about trying to get legislators to cancel plans for high-speed rail in California—even though he had no plans to build it.
(just 'cause I like to repeat it ;) , but Berkut will accuse me of tabloid something something)

I wonder why Musk's biographer didn't include that detail in the book (which I read).
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Quote from: viper37 on August 11, 2022, 03:22:48 PM"Elon Musk admitted to his biographer that the reason the Hyperloop was announced—even tho he had no intention of pursuing it—was to try to disrupt the California high-speed rail project to get in the way of that actually succeeding."
https://twitter.com/brenttoderian/status/1557224539267817472
The titans of tech brought plenty of disruption to our broken transportation system but delivered little in the way of innovation.

And more details about the general douchiness of Elon Musk business behavior:
https://time.com/6203815/elon-musk-flaws-billionaire-visions/

QuoteHe has a history of floating false solutions to the drawbacks of our over-reliance on cars that stifle efforts to give people other options. The Boring Company was supposed to solve traffic, not be the Las Vegas amusement ride it is now. As I've written in my book, Musk admitted to his biographer Ashlee Vance that Hyperloop was all about trying to get legislators to cancel plans for high-speed rail in California—even though he had no plans to build it.
(just 'cause I like to repeat it ;) , but Berkut will accuse me of tabloid something something)

I saw this too and thought to post it here....but click through the link trail there and there's no definitive proof of him saying this sadly.
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viper37

Quote from: grumbler on August 11, 2022, 07:38:04 PMI wonder why Musk's biographer didn't include that detail in the book (which I read).
https://jalopnik.com/did-musk-propose-hyperloop-to-stop-california-high-spee-1849402460

QuoteElon was never really selling the Hyperloop after the announcement," Vance said. "The tunnel stuff, I think, is much more questionable. I still don't understand how The Boring Company digs tunnels faster or better than anybody else. Unlike SpaceX, Tesla, it's not clear to me that there's any major innovation in the tunneling. I just don't understand what the breakthrough is on that one."
"So did Elon try to sell a green project to make money? Or did he just have an idea and blurt it out," I asked Vance.
"I'm 99.9-percent sure it's the latter," Vance tells me.

Might not be as douchey as it was hinted in the Time's article, but it's still one more billionaire against fast public transit in North America, and from Musk, one more unrealistic idea floating out there that he hasn't delivered on.
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So that actual quote from Vance is
QuoteWith any luck, the high-speed rail would be canceled. Musk said as much to me [Ashlee Vance] during a series of e-mails and phone calls leading up to the announcement. "Down the road, I might fund or advise on a Hyperloop project, but right now I can't take my eye off the ball at either SpaceX or Tesla," he wrote.

So, he didn't say it, Vance inferred that it was true based on the fact that Musk actually said that "Down the road, I might fund or advise on a Hyperloop project."  That's why Vance only noted in the book that "it seemed at the time" that Hyperloop was "designed to make the public and legislators rethink high speed trains."

So, once again, we have people taking other peoples' words, re-writing them to make the subject appear more evil than even the quoted source claims, and boom!:  sensational article to aid book sales.

Musk is a douche, but the people lying about him for their own gain are also douches.
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Berkut

Why would I accuse you of anything?

It's bizarre how much you guys get pissed off over anyone not agreeing with every little detail of your obsession.
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viper37

Quote from: Berkut on August 13, 2022, 07:47:54 AMWhy would I accuse you of anything?

because you spent 15 pages denouncing people criticizing Musk.
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grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on August 13, 2022, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 13, 2022, 07:47:54 AMWhy would I accuse you of anything?

because you spent 15 pages denouncing people criticizing Musk.

:rolleyes:  Let us know when you are done nailing yourself to that cross.
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