Reuters: US ambassador to Libya dead

[CountDeMoney]

Congrats for murdering this thread people. I couldn't be bothered properly reading the last 5 pages. What a bore.

Grumbler got involved.  What do you expect?

Now, now...Viking set it on fire, grumbler just came along to extinguish the flame with his piss. 

[katmai]

And Vinegar, can't forget the Vinegar.

[Ed Anger]

I'm glad I haven't felt like visiting the last couple of days. 

[Razgovory]

Congrats for murdering this thread people. I couldn't be bothered properly reading the last 5 pages. What a bore.

Grumbler got involved.  What do you expect?

Now, now...Viking set it on fire, grumbler just came along to extinguish the flame with his piss. 

That seems to be his solution to everything.

"Oh, good morning Grumbler, I was just having a tasty bowl of Cheerios and OH GOD NO!"

[CountDeMoney]

Rep. Gohmert says Obama helping to build second Ottoman Empire

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) on Friday accused President Obama of conducting a foreign policy that is helping to create a second Ottoman Empire in the Middle East.

Gohmert was speaking on the House floor, where he accused the Obama administration of pulling out of Iraq after victory had been won, and allowing Iran to better influence Iraq. He said withdrawing means less American influence there, and said the results of that decision are already being seen in some of the attacks on U.S. diplomatic outposts in the Middle East and North Africa.

"This is the beginning... a massive beginning of a new Ottoman Empire that President Obama can take great credit for," Gohmert said. "Thank you President Barack Hussein Obama. This will be quite a legacy for you.

"And I'm not one of those who says he's not a Christian. All I know is that's between him and God. But what I do know is he has helped jump start a new Ottoman Empire, and left our friend and ally Israel so vulnerable in this sea of radicalism that he has helped bring to the surface."

Gohmert added later that while Obama said he would be able to negotiate better with Muslim countries given his time living abroad, the U.S. is now less liked under Obama than it was under President Bush.

"The approval rating of the United States in those Muslim countries where we've been was 33 percent, which was terrible, under President Bush in 2008," Gohmert said. "And now under this president, we see a report last week, it's now 15 percent.

"This president is trying to buy affection from people who are bullies, who are radical Islamists, who want to destroy us. You're not going to get love and affection, you get contempt."

Gohmert's comments came as part of a nearly one-hour critique of the Obama administration on a range of issues including the economy and the growing national debt. He started by saying Democrats were disingenuous for saying they want to reduce federal spending.

"How incredibly disingenuous for anyone in America who would stand up and say, 'gee we really want to bring down our spending.' And yet everything they propose except for the military creates more spending," he said.

He also said the sequester benefits Democrats who want to see military cuts, and said Republicans should never have supported the agreement that created the sequester.

"I blame my leadership," Gohmert said, referring to Republican leaders. "We should never have agreed with Democrats to that stupid supercommittee, deficit ceiling bill. We should not have."

Gohmert spoke after Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who accused Republicans of crashing the economy and then questioning the speed at which it is recovering under Obama, and for failing to compromise with Democrats. But Gohmert rejected that analysis on several fronts.

In response to Pelosi's charge on the lack of cooperation, he said, "Are you kidding me?" and argued that Democrats did not cooperate with Republicans at all when passing the healthcare law in 2010.

Gohmert was followed on the floor by Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), who cited several statistics indicating the weakness of the economy under Obama. For example, he noted that the labor force participation rate is at its lowest point in 31 yeast, the number of unemployed Americans hit 15 million for the first time, the time needed to find a job is at a new record high, and that four million people have stopped looking for work.

The House recessed subject to the call of the chair after Franks spoke, signaling an end to floor activities in the House until after the election. The House will meet again next Tuesday for a pro-forma session.

[DGuller]

When I saw that title, I was dumbfounded.  How would a Republican Congressman even know what an Ottoman Empire was?  As I read this article, that question answered itself.

[Neil]

You know, if Gerald Ford could see what Republican Congressmen were getting up to these days, he'd be ashamed.

[CountDeMoney]

You know, if Gerald Ford could see what Republican Congressmen were getting up to these days, he'd be ashamed.

By all accounts a gentle man, but I think he'd want to slug a few of these nowadays.

[Habbaku]

The Ottoman Empire reforming would be a good thing for that region.

[Neil]

I think that a lot of those great old men would just give up politics.  Between the wretchedness of the modern Republicans and the fact that most of the Democratic agenda is unpalatable, it's enough to make a man sad.

[Jaron]

All we need to know now is if a bass is a perch or a trout.

[grumbler]

I don't really see how that's comparable. At least his are usually entertaining (though not in the way he anticipated).

To me, Viking's flailing about as he tries to avoid the consequences of his mis-statements is as amusing as Tamas's doing the same.  YMMV.

[Malthus]

When I saw that title, I was dumbfounded.  How would a Republican Congressman even know what an Ottoman Empire was?  As I read this article, that question answered itself.

Maybe he's a lurker here.

LOL CAN OBAMA BE: OTTOMAN EMPIRE?

[garbon]

I don't really see how that's comparable. At least his are usually entertaining (though not in the way he anticipated).

To me, Viking's flailing about as he tries to avoid the consequences of his mis-statements is as amusing as Tamas's doing the same.  YMMV.

It does - greatly.

[Valmy]

"This is the beginning... a massive beginning of a new Ottoman Empire that President Obama can take great credit for," Gohmert said. "Thank you President Barack Hussein Obama. This will be quite a legacy for you.

Wow that would be quite a legacy.   Establish an easily controlled and corrupt Caliphate to keep the Arab world under control?  Heck if he did that he would earn that Nobel Prize.

"How incredibly disingenuous for anyone in America who would stand up and say, 'gee we really want to bring down our spending.' And yet everything they propose except for the military creates more spending," he said.

The Republicans, on the other hand, would make sure the military also creates more spending.