25 years old and deep in debt

[Ed Anger]

Flannel Weekly and Canadian Tuxedo Aficionado would also be acceptable.

[Jacob]

Flannel Weekly and Canadian Tuxedo Aficionado would also be acceptable.

Acceptable? The FW&CTA is synonymous with the objective truth in these part.

[Malthus]

Flannel Weekly and Canadian Tuxedo Aficionado would also be acceptable.

Canadian tuxedos are made out of flannel. Plad flannel.

[Jacob]

That's good.  I just don't know Canuck sources.

The NP is a national newspaper, launched by everybody's favourite former media mogul Conrad Black. It was intended to be a challenger on the right of the Globe & Mail, which is the paper of record of the Toronto elites (and thus by default, the nation).

[HVC]

Flannel Weekly and Canadian Tuxedo Aficionado would also be acceptable.

You forgot about Maple Syrup Monthly.

[Savonarola]

Flannel Weekly and Canadian Tuxedo Aficionado would also be acceptable.

Canadian tuxedos are made out of flannel. Plad flannel.

[Ideologue]

Knot's not ridiculously fat enough.  Otherwise, perfect.

[LaCroix]

N.B.: I got no idea if this is a reputable Canadian publication, but it sounds pretty accurate to me.  Canadian 1Ls, welcome to the United States circa 2010.

queen's university appears to be the stanford of canada. maclean's law school rating places it third. and they raised enrollment by only 35 students. i would blow your horn just yet 

1/7 total graduates who can't find articling positions is pretty great compared to legal market down here. i mean, god. golden gate university: 21.5% 

http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/03/-full-rankings-bar-admission-required-full-time-long-term.html

[LaCroix]

honestly, i think a significant amount of blame should be placed on the individual re: issues with law students finding employment post-graduation. there is so much information available today that many people just don't seek out. there's no excuse to ignore the wealth of knowledge out there. not everyone needs to get into the top 14 or even first tier schools to do well post-graduation. people who choose to remain in overly saturated markets, attend law school at a third or fourth tier law school that's located right next to a first tier or top 14 school, not work their ass off to reach top 25%, and don't blanket the country with applications post graduation kind of deserve what's coming to them.

i see a lot of people in my class who lack drive. for first summer internships, many applied to a handful of firms, got rejected, so gave up and are now planning on working at their old job over the summer. many will probably find employment after graduation since this is north dakota, but if they lived elsewhere? that lack of ambition would probably sink them, and i think that's their fault. i know people with extremely sub par grades who sent out fifty resumes to get their summer internship. on some law forums, some people have sent out 500+ resumes/cover letters before snagging a job. those who try do find internships or employment. granted, if everyone tried, there would be a substantial number of people who wouldn't get a job. but few actually try

[Eddie Teach]

People shouldn't have to apply for 500 jobs to get one.

[Admiral Yi]

500 its nuts.

[LaCroix]

People shouldn't have to apply for 500 jobs to get one.

500 its nuts.

this was a pretty nutty forum, and i don't know that poster's circumstance (he might have also been exaggerating, though i did see another person say his was in the 300s). he might have been applying for big/mid law positions or a federal clerkship rather than any position. or he might have made several poor decisions. the fact remains that if someone tries hard enough they will find job. bottom of the class at a fourth tier university in san francisco can probably find a job if he sends out enough applications. but he likely won't, because being bottom of the class in a poorly ranked university usually is a sign of some character flaw. so, he adds to the statistics of unemployment among law grads

[Admiral Yi]

La: for your logic to obtain there would have to be thousands of shyster jobs going unfilled every year.  I see no evidence to suggest that's true.  For one thing, with a flow of thousands a year, at some point you would have more unfilled shyster jobs than there are people.

The standard explanation, that there's a finite demand and a supply that exceeds it, makes much more sense.

[CountDeMoney]

People shouldn't have to apply for 500 jobs to get one.

I applied for close to 300 before I got one, and I'm still applying for better ones, so 500 does not seem unrealistic.

[LaCroix]

La: for your logic to obtain there would have to be thousands of shyster jobs going unfilled every year.  I see no evidence to suggest that's true.  For one thing, with a flow of thousands a year, at some point you would have more unfilled shyster jobs than there are people.

The standard explanation, that there's a finite demand and a supply that exceeds it, makes much more sense.

what? if everyone sent out tons of applications until they found a position, then of course there would be many who would never find a job even if they sent out thousands upon thousands. but as i said, there are lots of people who aren't willing to do that. also, loads of people just don't want to move from their area, so they don't bother picking up the phone and calling every firm in wyoming, for example

(edit) oh, i think i see the confusion. my last sentence in the previous post: "adds to the statistics"? yeah, poor phrasing