25 years old and deep in debt

[Ideologue]

Also that.  It's not that big a deal.

Fwiw, I do think he was kind of a dick, but that's cops for you.  Almost no one who wants to be one should be allowed to be.  Still, it's a dumb move to get that wrought up over a jaywalking ticket (maybe) and an ID check.

[garbon]

Fwiw, I do think he was kind of a dick, but that's cops for you.

Which is a problem. We're expected to let these individuals treat us like shit; like we'd not let most, if anyone, else in our lives treat us the same.

[garbon]

Anyway, she fucked up when she thought it was a good idea to be in Arizona with brown skin.

[DGuller]

Yeah everyone should just be docile when confronted by the police.

It's generally a very good idea, especially if you leave the copy of your tax return at home.

[Admiral Yi]

Also that.  It's not that big a deal.

Fwiw, I do think he was kind of a dick, but that's cops for you.  Almost no one who wants to be one should be allowed to be.  Still, it's a dumb move to get that wrought up over a jaywalking ticket (maybe) and an ID check.

What did he do that you thought was dickish?

[DGuller]

Also that.  It's not that big a deal.

Fwiw, I do think he was kind of a dick, but that's cops for you.  Almost no one who wants to be one should be allowed to be.  Still, it's a dumb move to get that wrought up over a jaywalking ticket (maybe) and an ID check.

What did he do that you thought was dickish?

The way he started the conversation was unfitting of a trained professional in uniform.  You don't start off with a sarcastic remark;  that makes you and every other cop wearing your uniform look bad, and that could aggravate someone who has a short fuse or has had a very bad day.  The cop gave an opening for the situation to get out of control.

[Ideologue]

Using a confrontational, rising tone when the situation called for de-escalation--basically failing to contain his emotional reaction (although hardly to half the same extent as the good Professor).  Also, stopping someone for jaywalking is de facto dickish.

[Admiral Yi]

I got the impression both the video and the tape started somewhat into the confrontation.  Did you think they started at the start?

When I first read about it I thought a stop for jaywalking was weak sauce as well, but you can see on the video it's a fairly wide street.

[DGuller]

Meh, me and my co-worker got stopped for jaywalking recently.  The difference is that the cop didn't ask us whether we knew the difference between a red light and a green light.  He introduced himself politely, described what we did, described the danger of what we did, and explained that we could've been fined.  It was clear that he was trained to communicate in a way that did not invite talk-back or debate, much less heated arguments.

[Ed Anger]

I would have tased DG, declared him a commie and eliminate him. hail the Computer!

[Malthus]

Nothing ever has or will make my day.  It's like you DON'T EVEN KNOW ME.

However:

The English professor

Professor Ore's one crime that evening was to demand respect that she deserves as a productive, educated and tax paying member of society,

First thought: LOL.

Second thought: this is the most classist, shitty way to put it possible.  I didn't know tax dollars were supposed to buy you respect before the law.  What a fucking maroon.

No respect for you. 

[Malthus]

Fwiw, I do think he was kind of a dick, but that's cops for you.

Which is a problem. We're expected to let these individuals treat us like shit; like we'd not let most, if anyone, else in our lives treat us the same.

The issue is how best to prevent a cop from trampling all over your rights. Acting out will simply lead to the cop trampling all over you physically.

I suspect that if a cop is causing you shit, it is best to remain calm, note all the details of how he or she is acting the shit, and complain about it later. That moves the confrontation from a forum where the cop has every advantage - a physical confrontation in the street - to one where you have more of a level playing field - a complaint procedure and/or the media.

Mouthing off, or worse, fighting the cop, will simply never end well for you. Cops are trained in "controlling" (which may include beating up) people who try shit like that, and can call for back-up.

[CountDeMoney]

People--and their mouths--get themselves locked up.

Treat a cop with a shitty attitude the way you treat an argument with your girlfriend:  shut the fuck up, don't escalate with them, and bitch about it later to your buddies.

Just don't escalate with them.

[garbon]

Fwiw, I do think he was kind of a dick, but that's cops for you.

Which is a problem. We're expected to let these individuals treat us like shit; like we'd not let most, if anyone, else in our lives treat us the same.

The issue is how best to prevent a cop from trampling all over your rights. Acting out will simply lead to the cop trampling all over you physically.

I suspect that if a cop is causing you shit, it is best to remain calm, note all the details of how he or she is acting the shit, and complain about it later. That moves the confrontation from a forum where the cop has every advantage - a physical confrontation in the street - to one where you have more of a level playing field - a complaint procedure and/or the media.

Mouthing off, or worse, fighting the cop, will simply never end well for you. Cops are trained in "controlling" (which may include beating up) people who try shit like that, and can call for back-up.

Oh certainly. I know how to be all "yes, massah" when confronted by a cop. My point was that I think it is really shitty that we have to be deferential to individuals treating us poorly. There isn't really anyone that I typically deal with that I'd put up with such shit from.

Also the bit in bold probably is a waste of time unless you've a lot of time on your hands / powerful friends. My mother failed mightily in her complaint about my unwarranted traffic stop.

[Admiral Yi]

Certainly there is some middle ground between kicking a cop in the shin and kissing ass.