France approves law to cut illegal downloaders off the internet

Started by Syt, May 12, 2009, 01:21:27 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 12, 2009, 02:37:10 PM
It said 3 illegal downloads in one year in the article.  You could accidentally do that in a few minutes.

You have to be warned twice before they can do it.
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Quote from: Valmy on May 12, 2009, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on May 12, 2009, 02:37:10 PM
It said 3 illegal downloads in one year in the article.  You could accidentally do that in a few minutes.

You have to be warned twice before they can do it.

Will they pre-warn, like on EUOT? :x
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Valmy

Quote from: vinraith on May 12, 2009, 02:41:24 PM
I predict a rash of ISP account stealing in France.

Yeah I think anybody smart enough to illegally download stuff can figure out how to get around this unenforcable penalty.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on May 12, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
Quotewith most Socialist Party deputies voting against it.

Socialists love stealing.
Property is a social construct. I would have voted against the law, too. :P

Valmy

Quote from: Martinus on May 12, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Property is a social construct. I would have voted against the law, too. :P

So are gay rights but you would vote for them :(
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Quote from: Valmy on May 12, 2009, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 12, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Property is a social construct. I would have voted against the law, too. :P

So are gay rights but you would vote for them :(
Precisely. And so are the "traditional family values" and "gender roles". Which is why every law has to be considered on its merits, its proportionality and its long-term consequences, rather than being based on some absolutist paradigm. :)

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DontSayBanana

Just "cutting off" the Internet is not an answer. If they spent as much money on slowly restructuring the Internet so that there were dedicated lines for file transfer vs network communication, I wouldn't have the same misgivings, but cutting off their ability to download is also removing their access to a lot of information that's becoming somewhat essential-

College students are likely suspects for downloads, for example, but nowadays, much of their research needs to be done online; also, undergraduates are far more likely to be required to apply online for chain jobs (at least here in the US, not sure about Frenchyland), which is why I'm also against US measures to cut Internet access to sex offenders (specifically because of lining up a job being a condition of parole).
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Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 12, 2009, 03:07:42 PM
College students are likely suspects for downloads, for example, but nowadays, much of their research needs to be done online;

:rolleyes: Yeah we need more students who hand in Wiki papers.
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DontSayBanana

Quote from: The Brain on May 12, 2009, 03:10:58 PM
:rolleyes: Yeah we need more students who hand in Wiki papers.
Not disagreeing with that; I've seen teachers at an accredited 4-year college (that shall remain nameless simply because I don't foresee anyone here enrolling at it) REQUIRE wiki citations. :bleeding:
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Quote from: DontSayBanana on May 12, 2009, 03:12:55 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 12, 2009, 03:10:58 PM
:rolleyes: Yeah we need more students who hand in Wiki papers.
Not disagreeing with that; I've seen teachers at an accredited 4-year college (that shall remain nameless simply because I don't foresee anyone here enrolling at it) REQUIRE wiki citations. :bleeding:

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Martinus on May 12, 2009, 02:33:54 PM
Anyway, as the article states, this law is contrary to the relevant EU regulation, so it seems like this is just a publicity/political stunt by the more and more unpopular French government, since it is going to be overturned in court.
Don't read too much into the government's unpopularity.  They face as an opposition the only party in Europe that has absolutely no desire to form a government :bleeding:

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