Favorite Sci-Fi (if you must, Fantasy as well) Universes?

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Neil

#30
May 12, 2009, 07:32:29 AM
Hard to say.  My moods always change.  I always liked Known Space to one degree or another.  Foundation is neat.
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Ed Anger

#31
May 12, 2009, 07:34:35 AM
Battletech, succession wars, pre-clan bullshit

Black Company. At least the North. Screw that shit in Taglios.

The Dread Empire

Pournelle's CoDominium/Empire of Man

Traveller. pre virus and New Era

Starfire, before David Weber fucked with it.
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Scipio

#32
May 12, 2009, 07:46:35 AM
Urth of the New Sun.
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Neil

#33
May 12, 2009, 07:50:40 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 12, 2009, 07:34:35 AM
Battletech, succession wars, pre-clan bullshit
The Succession Wars were great, the Clan Wars were alright, the Dark Ages retarded.
QuoteTraveller. pre virus and New Era
Yeah, that was a wacky change.  Fucking Dulinor.
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KRonn

#34
May 12, 2009, 08:04:14 AM
Books: Song of Ice and Fire (George RR Martin), Rama. Dune, and probably others I can't think of.

Movies/TV: Stargate SG1 is a favorite. Star Trek though I've become tired of them, Babylon 5 which I got into late, Dune, Star Wars though a bit cartoonish I like it over all.

PDH

#35
May 12, 2009, 08:07:31 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 12, 2009, 07:09:02 AM
A universesto add for consideration:
H.B. Piper's Terro-Human Future History.  Built around the idea that history repeats itself, the series has fun for both history and SF fans.
:thumbsup:
I always loved Piper, and the effort to show that his T-F Future History was indeed coherent should have made this work better appreciated.
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Malthus

#36
May 12, 2009, 08:08:25 AM
Gormenghast.  :D
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#37
May 12, 2009, 08:09:50 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 12, 2009, 07:21:48 AM
so you basically consider all of sci-fi and fantasy "not worth writing" ? or have I misunderstood you?

You misunderstood.
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Ed Anger

#38
May 12, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
I'm slightly surprised that Spellus isn't a fan of Turtledove's Videssos, since it is Byzantium/Persia/Armenia with magic.
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grumbler

#39
May 12, 2009, 09:21:22 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 12, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
I'm slightly surprised that Spellus isn't a fan of Turtledove's Videssos, since it is Byzantium/Persia/Armenia with magic.
Probably not even he could get through all 5 books (and that doesn't include however many books were in the later several series set in other time frames).

The whole problem with the Videssos 'verse is that, literally, "goddidit."  Given the actual existence of an omnipotent god and an omnipotent devil, the meaningless actions of a few mortals becomes uninteresting.

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Syt

#40
May 12, 2009, 09:28:56 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 12, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
I'm slightly surprised that Spellus isn't a fan of Turtledove's Videssos, since it is Byzantium/Persia/Armenia with magic.

I'm more surprised, even, that no one mentioned Gor yet.
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Ed Anger

#41
May 12, 2009, 09:29:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 12, 2009, 09:28:56 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 12, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
I'm slightly surprised that Spellus isn't a fan of Turtledove's Videssos, since it is Byzantium/Persia/Armenia with magic.

I'm more surprised, even, that no one mentioned Gor yet.

It slipped my mind.  :blush:
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Viking

#42
May 12, 2009, 09:31:56 AM Last Edit: May 12, 2009, 09:40:43 AM by Viking
Quote from: Syt on May 12, 2009, 09:28:56 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 12, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
I'm slightly surprised that Spellus isn't a fan of Turtledove's Videssos, since it is Byzantium/Persia/Armenia with magic.

I'm more surprised, even, that no one mentioned Gor yet.
:bleeding:

Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4996410.stm

Edit2:There are an estimated 25,000 Goreans worldwide.
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Ed Anger

#43
May 12, 2009, 09:40:04 AM
Quote from: Viking on May 12, 2009, 09:31:56 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 12, 2009, 09:28:56 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 12, 2009, 09:06:40 AM
I'm slightly surprised that Spellus isn't a fan of Turtledove's Videssos, since it is Byzantium/Persia/Armenia with magic.

I'm more surprised, even, that no one mentioned Gor yet.
:bleeding:



Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4996410.stm
:lol:
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Josquius

#44
May 12, 2009, 10:09:59 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 12, 2009, 07:09:02 AM
Viking, I would agree with your evaluations above, but note that Firefly wasn't supposed to be a coherent, logical universe like most of the others you name.  It was a setting, not a "universe" per se, and had few fast and firm rules.  Thus, if the story needed to have cattle being moved by starship like they had historical been moved by train, you could do it even if it made no sense in any larger context.

It was a fun show and a fun setting, but there was no "there" there.  I certainly don't feel deprived by the lack of any further stories in that 'verse.

A universesto add for consideration:
H.B. Piper's Terro-Human Future History.  Built around the idea that history repeats itself, the series has fun for both history and SF fans.


I'd agree on Firefly.
It was quite a shitty, very nonsencial universe. But a awesome, awesome series.
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