How do I lose 5 pounds in 7 days?

[merithyn]

I see. Well, your general knowledge is only partially correct. The riders restrict all kinds of things, from pre-existing conditions to smoking, pregnancy, height/weight ratio, the neighborhood or community you live in, and more. They can restrict them for a year, two years, or for as long as the employee has the condition. Every company sets their own rules when they buy their policies. The only legal rule is that if a member had a condition covered prior to employment with no more than a 59-day break, they must be given continued coverage.

So you're completely off on what can be use against an employee in group coverage.

EDiT: my source is the director of group policies at the insurance company where I work.

[DGuller]

Ok, then, I stand corrected.

[garbon]

Ok, then, I stand corrected.

You're going to sit your ass down.

[Valdemar]

Nothing's going to perfectly predict every individual person's costs, but on a macro level I would say BMI is probably a fair way to assess risk.

My company pretty much does what Meri's company does, but they start out charging you a higher rate and then if you meet certain goals for personal health you get a discount.

Garbon's goating aside this was basically what my thoughts were

A, insurance company got to set some level, BMI is universal, right or wrong, its recognised across board.
B, It is unlikely that Merri didn't have an inkling that this might be the case
C, Merri is very well aware of her BMI, heck, she has been griping about it and the unfairness of the BMI itself since she joined languish.

Ergo, the need to lose 5 pounds in short term cannot be completely surprising, ofc I missed the fact that she only has two weeks to complete it due recently joining the company, but that doesn't change the basic fact that she is five pounds on the wrong side of a universally recognised, if faulty, scale that many organisations use and that she knows that fact well in advance. As such there really is no apparent reason to blame the company

Even with a faulty scale losing five pounds brings Merri from obese to overweight, not into teenage haute couture sizes. That DOES mean increased risk of health related issues, whether feeling fit or not.

Merri's prices and everyone elses would sky rocket way beyond a 60$ increase if everyone should have individually related healthchecks and insurance estimates. Not to mention the administration of the insurances afterwards.

So really, I'm sorry Merri have to sweat it out for two weeks, but I cannot see that this can such a big ambush as you make it up to be.

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[merithyn]

So really, I'm sorry Merri have to sweat it out for two weeks, but I cannot see that this can such a big ambush as you make it up to be.

V

What the fuck are you talking about? I never set it up as any kind of ambush. I just said it's bullshit.

And obviously you didn't read anything anyone said if you still believe that being overweight by the BMI leads to more health issues. But then, I shouldn't be surprised. You've made it a habit to comment on things you know nothing about as if you're an expert.

[Valdemar]

I didn't say BMI leads to more health issues.

I said EVEN if BMI is faulty, if you are in that end of the scale then you re likely to have increased risk of health issues, by any scale

And yes, to me, your posts did come of as if the two weeks notice and the refusal of the company to waver, or at least modify their requirements, or change the scale, was a surprise, an ambush.

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[garbon]

And yes, to me, your posts did come of as if the two weeks notice and the refusal of the company to waver, or at least modify their requirements, or change the scale, was a surprise, an ambush.

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But that's already been spoken to in many posts. I'm not really sure why you insist on making an ass of yourself in this thread.

[Valdemar]

But that's already been spoken to in many posts. I'm not really sure why you insist on making an ass of yourself in this thread.

So that you can feel superior pointing out what you think is obvious

If it has already been pointed out, then whats the harm, in saying what has already been said before and replying to comments? 
 
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[garbon]

I'm not feeling superior, I'm feeling like you are being obstinate and rude. 

Like I said it has already been shown many times that this wasn't some sudden request that she felt ambushed by - beyond the extent that this came up when she had just taken a new job.  I've never been on a group insurance plan that had me have a physical nor analyzed my BMI, so it is totally fair to not expect that insurance company would do such.

I know that you are ignorant of how things work here in America, so I'm not sure why you deem it necessary to keep sharing your inaccurate views.

[garbon]

And are you not claiming superiority when you go on about how Meri should have expected this?

[HVC]

more importanly, did the laxatives work?

[Valdemar]

I'm not feeling superior, I'm feeling like you are being obstinate and rude. 

I see, so it isn't smuck feelings of superiority that makes you pick out my posts twice, calling them making an ass of my self, despite the fact that you admit they are only saying the same as every one else?  Must be me reading your motives completely wrong.. again..

I'm so sorry Garbon if you don't feel superior 

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[garbon]

WTF, you aren't saying the same as anyone else. You keep insisting that Meri should have known about BMI requirements for insurance at a new job.  You've not provided any evidence of why that would be the case (just assumptions) - whereas Meri, Max and myself have providing talking points to the opposite position.

You're really the only one in this thread trying to make Meri look like an idiot.

[Valdemar]

Is it now? Maybe if you read the thread again in one go?

Cause I saw plentyful of comments discussing BMI as a measure for insurance, why this wasn't unusual, why it would be costly to do it another way.

So stop being selective and try reading it again. And if you yourself tells me, two posts ago that I'm only rehashing what others said, then why exactly does that matter to you? If not to make you feel superior pointing it out?

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[merithyn]

I see, so it isn't smuck feelings of superiority that makes you pick out my posts twice, calling them making an ass of my self, despite the fact that you admit they are only saying the same as every one else?  Must be me reading your motives completely wrong.. again..

Please, feel free to quote a single other person in this thread claiming that I am crying "ambush!" Just one. Anyone. Besides you, that is.

That your reading comprehension is lacking has never been called into question. So let me be perfectly clear: I was surprised that the BMI would be a factor for my new job, as it has never been so before at any other job that I've taken. I find it crappy that a health insurance company would base the cost of insurance for the individual on a scale that was never intended to be used to assess individual health. The point of this thread to was to figure out a way to circumvent the stupid scale within seven days, which turned out to not be necessary.

I'm not sure what you're trying to do here. Either it's to make me feel badly about my weight, which I don't, or to make me appear to be stupid, which in turn you've managed to do to yourself. Either way, a wise man might either admit he was wrong, or simply shut the fuck up and fade away. Given who I'm speaking to, I think I can give up on either of those things happening.