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Where do atheists get their morals from?

Started by Viking, August 01, 2012, 02:22:56 AM

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Grey Fox

Quote from: Valmy on August 09, 2012, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 09, 2012, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 09, 2012, 12:35:35 PM
Religious people are amusing.

Sometimes. Other times, they say stupid shit like that the earth is 6 to 9 thousands years old or that having Faith his the biggest luck of their lfie.

Hey!  Everybody has a God sized hole in their life only God can fill!!!111

Maybe but God existence is impossible, what is one to do then?
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Malthus

Quote from: dps on August 09, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
Whether they are literally true, allegorically true, or completely false (or some other possibility) has little to no effect on his world view if he doesn't believe them to be at least partly true.

Not necessarily. If they are a foundational part of your culture, they can have a great effect on your worldview even if you consider them wholly false.

For example, it is difficult to understand much of Western culture without reference to the Bible, and this is true even if you personally are an atheist. You can't avoid your own cultural setting, which will have some form of impact. 
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

dps

Quote from: Malthus on August 10, 2012, 08:41:02 AM
Quote from: dps on August 09, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
Whether they are literally true, allegorically true, or completely false (or some other possibility) has little to no effect on his world view if he doesn't believe them to be at least partly true.

Not necessarily. If they are a foundational part of your culture, they can have a great effect on your worldview even if you consider them wholly false.

For example, it is difficult to understand much of Western culture without reference to the Bible, and this is true even if you personally are an atheist. You can't avoid your own cultural setting, which will have some form of impact. 

Sure, but the impact of the culture you grow up in wasn't the question.  The question was how his worldview would change if the Bible is objectively true.  He rejects the idea that it is true, but his worldview is what it is whether he is correct or not.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Siege on August 09, 2012, 04:55:59 PM
What if nothing in the Torah (5 books of Moshe- First 5 books in your bible) was allegory.
What if everyhthing was literal?

How would that change your perception of the wold?

Given the internal contradictions, I would have to toss out Aristotlean logic for starters.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson