The State of Affairs in Russia

[Sheilbh]

Wonder if we'll see defections among them fighting the peacekeepers?

There's been some reports of defections.

From the BBC journalist in Almaty - gunfire and explosions tonight
https://twitter.com/abdujalil/status/1479181466571579394?s=20

[Tamas]

Grim. I guess Ukraine is safe for a while.

[Valmy]

It is amazing what the Russian government would rather waste its time and resources doing besides governing Russia well.

[DGuller]

It is amazing what the Russian government would rather waste its time and resources doing besides governing Russia well.

If your people let you get away with it, why not?

[Josquius]

Just read about the Kazakhstan situation. Finally made bbc news.

BBC News - Kazakhstan unrest: Russian troops fly in as crackdown continues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59900037

I wonder if this might serve to remove the knife from Ukraines neck as it is needed elsewhere.

[Gaijin de Moscu]

Incidentally, meanwhile in Almaty:


The President's announced his patron the former leader (since 1991) will step aside from his remaining roles. But also said this is clearly a conspiracy which he's going to respond to "as toughly as possible", they have also called for Russian help countering "terrorism". Apparently he's spoken to Putin and Lukashenko.

Separately apparently there's a list of demands from the People's Committee of Kazakhstan (whoever they are):

1. lower food prices
2. lower fuel prices
3. lowering the pension age to 58/60
4. resignation of the entire government
5. release those arrested
6. higher salaries for working-class people
7. deletion of all branches of national companies
8. cancellation of waste collection
9. cancellation of toll roads for Kazakh vehicles
10. Increase in minimum pension
11. increase in family allowances
12.president kassym-zhomart tokayev meeting these political demands

Which does not sound particularly like a foreign plot but very, very domestic.

Several lists like this one are floating around, most of them anecdotal.

The most "real" one demanded to bring down the gas prices (not gasoline - natural gas) for gas-fuelled cars. The government has satisfied this demand.

Then there are lists of "demands" which include legalising polygyny...

The Collective Security forces were moved in after the protesters murdered 18 local policemen, including at least 2 beheadings, and wounded several hundred. These protesters are well-armed, coordinated, and they no longer stand a chance.

[Josquius]

What the hell is up with the high gas prices at the moment anyway? Quite the big political issue in the UK too right now.

[Gaijin de Moscu]

What the hell is up with the high gas prices at the moment anyway? Quite the big political issue in the UK too right now.

IMHO - low storage levels in Europe cased by hotter summer/colder winter than usual, and high demand especially in Asia where a lot of supply has been redirected.

Nord Stream 2 could help normalise the prices, but for political reasons it's been stalled by our European partners.

[garbon]

Incidentally, meanwhile in Almaty:


The President's announced his patron the former leader (since 1991) will step aside from his remaining roles. But also said this is clearly a conspiracy which he's going to respond to "as toughly as possible", they have also called for Russian help countering "terrorism". Apparently he's spoken to Putin and Lukashenko.

Separately apparently there's a list of demands from the People's Committee of Kazakhstan (whoever they are):

1. lower food prices
2. lower fuel prices
3. lowering the pension age to 58/60
4. resignation of the entire government
5. release those arrested
6. higher salaries for working-class people
7. deletion of all branches of national companies
8. cancellation of waste collection
9. cancellation of toll roads for Kazakh vehicles
10. Increase in minimum pension
11. increase in family allowances
12.president kassym-zhomart tokayev meeting these political demands

Which does not sound particularly like a foreign plot but very, very domestic.

Several lists like this one are floating around, most of them anecdotal.

The most "real" one demanded to bring down the gas prices (not gasoline - natural gas) for gas-fuelled cars. The government has satisfied this demand.

Then there are lists of "demands" which include legalising polygyny...

The Collective Security forces were moved in after the protesters murdered 18 local policemen, including at least 2 beheadings, and wounded several hundred. These protesters are well-armed, coordinated, and they no longer stand a chance.

Thanks, Radio Sputnik?

[Iormlund]

What the hell is up with the high gas prices at the moment anyway? Quite the big political issue in the UK too right now.

A big part of that is the moronic anti-nuclear sentiment, which means Europe relies a lot more than it should on gas to cover gaps in electricity generation (it's the default backup for any green source as the plants themselves are relatively cheap, they spool up quite fast and coal is too contaminant).

We've been collectively digging our own graves for the past few decades by phasing out instead of building up nuclear energy plants (with the notable exception of the French).

And the best part is Russia gets to use that gas money to build actual nukes, destabilize our countries and in military expeditions to their rebellious vassals. Brilliant.

[mongers]

Several lists like this one are floating around, most of them anecdotal.

The most "real" one demanded to bring down the gas prices (not gasoline - natural gas) for gas-fuelled cars. The government has satisfied this demand.

Then there are lists of "demands" which include legalising polygyny...

The Collective Security forces were moved in after the protesters murdered 18 local policemen, including at least 2 beheadings, and wounded several hundred. These protesters are well-armed, coordinated, and they no longer stand a chance.

Hey Gaijin, good to hear from you, how are you doing.

[Jacob]

Hi Gaijin

So what's the general perspective inside Russia on... *gestures vaguely*... all of this....

Kazakhstan, Ukraine, relations with Europe and the US?

Actually... are you in Russia these days?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

What the hell is up with the high gas prices at the moment anyway? Quite the big political issue in the UK too right now.

A big part of that is the moronic anti-nuclear sentiment, which means Europe relies a lot more than it should on gas to cover gaps in electricity generation (it's the default backup for any green source as the plants themselves are relatively cheap, they spool up quite fast and coal is too contaminant).

We've been collectively digging our own graves for the past few decades by phasing out instead of building up nuclear energy plants (with the notable exception of the French).

And the best part is Russia gets to use that gas money to build actual nukes, destabilize our countries and in military expeditions to their rebellious vassals. Brilliant.

just shows that greens don't care about the environment, only about their dogmas.

[Gaijin de Moscu]

Thanks, Radio Sputnik?

Newsweek, for example:

https://www.newsweek.com/police-officer-beheaded-kazakhstan-russia-protests-violence-almaty-1666378%3famp=1

They are reporting 1 policeman beheaded, local news report up to 3. So I took 2.

It's violent there. Nothing peaceful about that botched coup attempt.

[Gaijin de Moscu]

Hey Gaijin, good to hear from you, how are you doing.

Hey Mongers, long time no speak! All good on my end, thanks and you?