Out-of-town homeless families are flooding New York City shelters

[garbon]

If I was being shipped out, I'd prefer Portland, OR. They have a soft touch on the housing challenged and I can eat shitty donuts from Voodoo donuts that people have tossed in the nearest dumpster.

I don't see how any of that puts Portland over SF.  Big plus would be that Portland is cheaper to live in but drawback is that it doesn't have as many potential job opportunities around (SF is connected rather easily to entire Bay Area)* and it rains more.

*assuming of course that one isn't aiming to be homeless forever.

[Admiral Yi]

You guys do realize, I hope, that most cost of living does not impact the homeless.

[garbon]

Cost of food certainly does and that varies dramatically.

[Admiral Yi]

A loaf of Wonderful Bread costs about the same wherever you go.

[katmai]

A loaf of Wonderful Bread costs about the same wherever you go.

Wanna bet?

[garbon]

Presumably they aren't buying bread as that wouldn't keep well outside. Anyway prices on a lot of items vary - for example fast food prices here in New York often are on par with what you'd pay in an airport...and cereal, I can pay 3 times less if I shop at a typical grocery store when visiting my parents over what I pay in Manhattan.

[Admiral Yi]

Wanna bet?

Alaska could be an outlier.  Hawaii too.

[Malthus]

There are people Beeb doesn't know? 

Where he comes from? Probably not. 

[mongers]

That's what some midwest towns did to ship their homeless to San Francisco.  Don't remember what SF's reaction was.

There did seem to be alot of homeless people in SF.  I could not help but think they picked a crap city to be homeless in.  Not only is it cold 365 days a year but the cost of living is astronomical.

You don't freeze to death in the middle of winter, and more of a left-wing political culture probably means more handouts.

I was shocked when I met the Vancouver crew a few years back and Jacob gave some money to a panhandler.  Nobody I know does that.  It just encourages them (and, by the way, some of them make pretty good coin panhandling.  Ah the things you learn doing docket court...)

How can they make good coin, if no-one gives them handouts? 

Of the last group of homeless people I was talking with last week, all three of them had jobs, which were full time ones as well.

Homelessness is a complex phenomena, that embraces a wide range of personal circumstances.

[katmai]

Wanna bet?

Alaska could be an outlier.  Hawaii too.

It so is, things seem so cheap when back in lower 48

[garbon]

Homelessness Life is a complex phenomena, that embraces a wide range of personal circumstances.

FYP

[Valmy]

You guys do realize, I hope, that most cost of living does not impact the homeless.

It would seem to me it would make it harder to escape homelessness.  Rent in SF can be pretty steep.

[Scipio]

German welfare was paid for by state budgets (at least in pre-Hartz-IV days). If a needy person moved from one state to another, the new home state got to bill the previous state for a year (or two?).

Our solution has been to fuck the destination state right in the wallet.  Hard.

[mongers]

Homelessness Life is a complex phenomena, that embraces a wide range of personal circumstances.

FYP

Nope I think you'll find my original post is indeed correct; homeless people aren't just a bunch of whino-sitting around the streets getting drunk, stoned or violent, there are all sort of homelessness situations other than the caricatures that sometimes get trotted out on this forum.

But by all means, don't let me get in way of a good Garbon 'au contraire' moment/post, you do it so well, so often, it's as if one didn't need to see you posts, just that you've posted in a thread and from the subject matter one could guess what the content of you post will be.

[dps]

Wanna bet?

Alaska could be an outlier.  Hawaii too.

Dude, 2 different stores in the same city will charge different prices.