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Man In Wheelchair Assaulted On Critical Mass

Started by mongers, July 30, 2012, 09:08:42 PM

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mongers

.... Or maybe not.   :hmm:

Take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfftgb4KOlE&feature=youtu.be

It's being reposted on facebook and the internet, and yet to my eyes doesn't appear to show what it purports to be. 

What do our law talkers make of it ? 

The background is it's a Critical Mass 'demonstration' from just before the Olympics, I'll leave my criticism of those clowns for another day, I think it originated in the Waterloo area and travelled up toward the Olympic Park, though I think this incident is early in the evening before any of them managed to cross the river.

There's no wheelchair involved, he seems capable of standing and at the 27 second mark 'assaults' the office by grabbing the back-left side of the officers jacket, who then reacts and to which the 'disabled' man appears to undergo some form of religious revelatory healing, sufficient for him to then pin the younger, fitter policeman to the bonnet of the silver car.

From what I see in the video, it's an open and shut case, he assaulted the officer, does this video have any specific legal status as evidence ?   
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

dps

Quote from: mongers on July 30, 2012, 09:08:42 PM
.... Or maybe not.   :hmm:

Take a look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfftgb4KOlE&feature=youtu.be

It's being reposted on facebook and the internet, and yet to my eyes doesn't appear to show what it purports to be. 

What do our law talkers make of it ? 

The background is it's a Critical Mass 'demonstration' from just before the Olympics, I'll leave my criticism of those clowns for another day, I think it originated in the Waterloo area and travelled up toward the Olympic Park, though I think this incident is early in the evening before any of them managed to cross the river.

There's no wheelchair involved, he seems capable of standing and at the 27 second mark 'assaults' the office by grabbing the back-left side of the officers jacket, who then reacts and to which the 'disabled' man appears to undergo some form of religious revelatory healing, sufficient for him to then pin the younger, fitter policeman to the bonnet of the silver car.

From what I see in the video, it's an open and shut case, he assaulted the officer, does this video have any specific legal status as evidence ?   


The man with the long white hair and beard with whom the officer struggles for a good bit wasn't in a wheelchair.  And yes, it seems clear that he grabbed ahold of the officer before the officer ever touched him.

There is, however, a man who might be in a wheelchair at the start of the video, but maybe he's on a bike.  I can't really tell.  The police seem to be pulling the girl with red in her hair off of him, but I don't think she was assaulting him, just trying to hold onto him so that the police couldn't take her away.  (And yes, her trying to hold onto him like that might technically qualify as assault, but it wouldn't be an assault as a normal non-lawyer would consider it.  And she pretty clearly wasn't a cop.)

garbon

Critical Mass is also the name of the event where cyclists (in SF and either Portland or Washington) essentially shutdown a stretch of city streets in a mass bicycle parade. I think in SF it happened every month. Fuckers.
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mongers

Quote from: garbon on July 30, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Critical Mass is also the name of the event where cyclists (in SF and either Portland or Washington) essentially shutdown a stretch of city streets in a mass bicycle parade. I think in SF it happened every month. Fuckers.

These are the same sort of hipster clowns.  :mad:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Martinus

Quote from: garbon on July 30, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Critical Mass is also the name of the event where cyclists (in SF and either Portland or Washington) essentially shutdown a stretch of city streets in a mass bicycle parade. I think in SF it happened every month. Fuckers.

Same in Warsaw. I always want to take part in one (I own a bicycle and I don't own a car) but always miss it. In Warsaw, they actually organize it on last Friday of a month at 6 p.m. - so every motorist who wants to get out of the city for the weekend must be extra-pissed.  :lol:

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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Martinus on July 31, 2012, 03:34:33 AM
Quote from: garbon on July 30, 2012, 09:45:43 PM
Critical Mass is also the name of the event where cyclists (in SF and either Portland or Washington) essentially shutdown a stretch of city streets in a mass bicycle parade. I think in SF it happened every month. Fuckers.

Same in Warsaw. I always want to take part in one (I own a bicycle and I don't own a car) but always miss it. In Warsaw, they actually organize it on last Friday of a month at 6 p.m. - so every motorist who wants to get out of the city for the weekend must be extra-pissed.  :lol:
Yeah, they are assholes.
PDH!

Brazen

He's a big hairy thug of a biker on a trike. Look at the front wheel around 0:41 - it's half a Harley! They're trying to get him off it before he rides away. Typical anti-authority pedal-pushers with no respect for the law trying to bend the truth. Next time they try to mow me down on the pavement, crossing the road or at a red light I'm sticking a crowbar in their spokes.

garbon

Quote from: Brazen on July 31, 2012, 06:56:03 AM
Next time they try to mow me down on the pavement, crossing the road or at a red light I'm sticking a crowbar in their spokes.

:)
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Brazen on July 31, 2012, 06:56:03 AM
He's a big hairy thug of a biker on a trike. Look at the front wheel around 0:41 - it's half a Harley! They're trying to get him off it before he rides away. Typical anti-authority pedal-pushers with no respect for the law trying to bend the truth. Next time they try to mow me down on the pavement, crossing the road or at a red light I'm sticking a crowbar in their spokes.
You are right to do so.
PDH!

mongers

Quote from: Martinus on July 31, 2012, 03:34:33 AM

Same in Warsaw. I always want to take part in one (I own a bicycle and I don't own a car) but always miss it. In Warsaw, they actually organize it on last Friday of a month at 6 p.m. - so every motorist who wants to get out of the city for the weekend must be extra-pissed.  :lol:

Why am I not surprised.  :hmm:

Quote from: mongers on July 30, 2012, 10:09:42 PM

These are the same sort of hipster clowns.  :mad:

"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

garbon

Here we go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

And this:
QuoteAlthough it does not condone incidents of violence and rudeness, the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition credits Critical Mass with spotlighting bicycle issues and aiding their efforts in advocating for cyclists.

:bleeding:

Get a real cause!
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: garbon on July 31, 2012, 08:15:57 AM
Here we go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

And this:
QuoteAlthough it does not condone incidents of violence and rudeness, the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition credits Critical Mass with spotlighting bicycle issues and aiding their efforts in advocating for cyclists.

:bleeding:

Get a real cause!
Word.
PDH!

garbon

Similar in SF are the nudism activists. As if that's a real pressing issue.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

mongers

Quote from: Brazen on July 31, 2012, 06:56:03 AM
He's a big hairy thug of a biker on a trike. Look at the front wheel around 0:41 - it's half a Harley! They're trying to get him off it before he rides away. Typical anti-authority pedal-pushers with no respect for the law trying to bend the truth. Next time they try to mow me down on the pavement, crossing the road or at a red light I'm sticking a crowbar in their spokes.

Maybe two wrongs don't make a right ? :unsure:


FWIW, I often find myself in dispute with bike redl ight jumpers.  <_<

And it's not the mode of transport that makes someone a tool it's the areshole inside or riding it that does. 
A few days ago I had to put a motorcyclist in his place as he was about to undertake both me and the motorist beside me at a traffic red light.  :rolleyes:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"