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Can You Change The 'Banking Culture' ?

Started by mongers, June 29, 2012, 08:32:53 PM

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2012, 05:25:59 PM
I think the point Beetlejuice was trying to make is that economic systems like communism that rely on good will and solidarity fail, unlike ones that rely on greed.

But, being a gypsy, he did a very poor job of communicating his point.

The problem wasn't lack of communication, it's that the point is bullcrap.

Eddie Teach

I'm not sure that point is bullcrap, but pretty much every system that's been implemented on a wide-scale, including communism, relies to a great extent upon greed.
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Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 30, 2012, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 30, 2012, 06:19:49 AM
Give me ten thousand bombers, and I can change the banking culture in a single night.

You have to do it during the day. While they're at work.

Nice try, Hermann.  Dehousing is best done at night.
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 30, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
I'm not sure that point is bullcrap, but pretty much every system that's been implemented on a wide-scale, including communism, relies to a great extent upon greed.

No. It relies on selflessness, and thus, it fails.

Same reason why government interference with the economy, and social engineering, fail everywhere but the most disciplined and advanced states. Just look at the present state of the EU.

Tamas

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 30, 2012, 05:25:59 PM
I think the point Beetlejuice was trying to make is that economic systems like communism that rely on good will and solidarity fail, unlike ones that rely on greed.

But, being a gypsy, he did a very poor job of communicating his point.

I would argue, Mr. Whats-the-drity-word-for-Korean, that my mistake was overestimating the comprehension ability of the posters here.

Ed Anger

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Quote from: Tamas on July 01, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
I would argue, Mr. Whats-the-drity-word-for-Korean, that my mistake was overestimating the comprehension ability of the posters here.

Apparently so, as I consider your statement to be much further reaching and easily dismissed than Yi's summation of it.

Governments can use the carrot to incentivize actions or the stick to disincentivize actions where the government feels the greater good is helped by doing so. This power can easily be misused but that doesn't mean it always is. But whether you agree with it or not, by doing so the government is relying on people acting in their own self-interest to take the carrot and avoid the stick.
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dps

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 01, 2012, 03:00:32 PM

Governments can use the carrot to incentivize actions or the stick to disincentivize actions where the government feels the greater good is helped by doing so. This power can easily be misused but that doesn't mean it always is.

Even when not deliberately misused, such efforts often fail due to unexpected consequences.

Razgovory

Quote from: dps on July 01, 2012, 06:35:33 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 01, 2012, 03:00:32 PM

Governments can use the carrot to incentivize actions or the stick to disincentivize actions where the government feels the greater good is helped by doing so. This power can easily be misused but that doesn't mean it always is.

Even when not deliberately misused, such efforts often fail due to unexpected consequences.

So?  That could be said about anything.
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Quote from: Ed Anger on July 01, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
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The grunts over there prefer to use "buckethead" as well.

dps

Quote from: Razgovory on July 01, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Quote from: dps on July 01, 2012, 06:35:33 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on July 01, 2012, 03:00:32 PM

Governments can use the carrot to incentivize actions or the stick to disincentivize actions where the government feels the greater good is helped by doing so. This power can easily be misused but that doesn't mean it always is.

Even when not deliberately misused, such efforts often fail due to unexpected consequences.

So?  That could be said about anything.

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Quote from: Tamas on July 01, 2012, 01:55:32 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 30, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
I'm not sure that point is bullcrap, but pretty much every system that's been implemented on a wide-scale, including communism, relies to a great extent upon greed.
No. It relies on selflessness, and thus, it fails.

Same reason why government interference with the economy, and social engineering, fail everywhere but the most disciplined and advanced states. Just look at the present state of the EU.
On the other hand, laissez-faire has never produced much in the way of positive results either, but is far more brutal than interventionist systems.
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