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Started by DGuller, June 28, 2012, 08:50:02 AM

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lustindarkness

Congress is the only one that can decide to make a tax. Right?
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Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
Congress is the only one that can decide to make a tax. Right?

Anybody can decide to make a tax.  In fact I have decided to make a tax on obnoxious Alabama accents.
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Quote from: Valmy on June 29, 2012, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
Congress is the only one that can decide to make a tax. Right?

Anybody can decide to make a tax.  In fact I have decided to make a tax on obnoxious Alabama accents.

I would have liked that the first few years here, used to it now.  :glare:

But what goverment entity has the constitutional power to enact a tax?
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Admiral Yi

Yes Lusti.

And if I'm not mistaken it's narrower than Congress; all spending and revenue bills have to originate in the House.

dps

Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
Congress is the only one that can decide to make a tax. Right?

To give a straight answer--as with any other legislation, a tax bill has to pass both houses of Congress, and is then sent to the President for his signature.   Bills regarding finances (including tax bills) must be originally introduced in the House of Representatives (bills not involving finance can be originally introduced in either the House or the Senate).

dps

Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 29, 2012, 03:04:55 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
Congress is the only one that can decide to make a tax. Right?

Anybody can decide to make a tax.  In fact I have decided to make a tax on obnoxious Alabama accents.

I would have liked that the first few years here, used to it now.  :glare:

But what goverment entity has the constitutional power to enact a tax?

Dude, you're asking something that they cover in 3rd grade Social Studies class.  And this is Languish.  What do you expect?

lustindarkness

Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 29, 2012, 03:15:37 PM
Yes Lusti.

And if I'm not mistaken it's narrower than Congress; all spending and revenue bills have to originate in the House.


Quote from: dps on June 29, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 02:22:52 PM
Congress is the only one that can decide to make a tax. Right?

To give a straight answer--as with any other legislation, a tax bill has to pass both houses of Congress, and is then sent to the President for his signature.   Bills regarding finances (including tax bills) must be originally introduced in the House of Representatives (bills not involving finance can be originally introduced in either the House or the Senate).

So my 8th grade civics did somehow stick in my small brain. Thank you.


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lustindarkness

Quote from: dps on June 29, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
Dude, you're asking something that they cover in 3rd grade Social Studies class.  And this is Languish.  What do you expect?

Actually, in Puerto Rico I think it was middle school that we covered this stuff, but I can't really remember. :(
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Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: dps on June 29, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
Dude, you're asking something that they cover in 3rd grade Social Studies class.  And this is Languish.  What do you expect?

Actually, in Puerto Rico I think it was middle school that we covered this stuff, but I can't really remember. :(

That's pretty bad if your school system's lagging behind West Virginia.  :P
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Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 29, 2012, 03:45:18 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: dps on June 29, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
Dude, you're asking something that they cover in 3rd grade Social Studies class.  And this is Languish.  What do you expect?

Actually, in Puerto Rico I think it was middle school that we covered this stuff, but I can't really remember. :(

That's pretty bad if your school system's lagging behind West Virginia.  :P

West Virginia has a crap school system (though from what I've seen it's not the worst in the nation), but you know what?  In America, even our crap schools are good enough that the students who want to learn, learn.  For all the failings of the education system in this country, if Johnny can't read, the main culprit is Johnny.

lustindarkness

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 29, 2012, 03:45:18 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 29, 2012, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: dps on June 29, 2012, 03:19:52 PM
Dude, you're asking something that they cover in 3rd grade Social Studies class.  And this is Languish.  What do you expect?

Actually, in Puerto Rico I think it was middle school that we covered this stuff, but I can't really remember. :(

That's pretty bad if your school system's lagging behind West Virginia.  :P

:yeah:
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Interesting decision overall - basically 3 justices managed to put together an overall holding on the key issues. And when you look at who the 3 justices are and their personalities and backgrounds, it isn't entirely surprising how Roberts came out the way he did.  Looks like Breyer and Kagan lured him over in return for their support on the Medicaid expansion.
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DGuller

Today is the day of the news bombshells, it seems.  First Anderson Cooper is gay, now it turns out Roberts flip-flopped.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57464549/roberts-switched-views-to-uphold-health-care-law/?tag=pop;stories