Pakistan is in such bad shape, even the generals don't want to stage a coup

Started by jimmy olsen, June 25, 2012, 07:19:59 PM

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Scipio

Quote from: Viking on June 26, 2012, 04:38:45 AM
Quote from: DGuller on June 25, 2012, 08:34:13 PM
It seems like such a disheartening vicious circle.  If we don't violate Pakistan's sovereignity, it becomes a state harboring al Qaeda (more than it already is).  If we strike with drones inside it, however, then Pakistani government loses what little credibility it has.  No one can win there.

And like all failed states it is basically making the threat "Give us what we want or our society collapses and YOU have pick up the pieces and deal with the consequences."
My understanding is the India could use a parking lot.
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I'd call Pakistan the Greece of Asia, except Greece is far worse than Pakistan.
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Scipio

Quote from: Jacob on June 26, 2012, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Scipio on June 26, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
I'd call Pakistan the Greece of Asia, except Greece is far worse than Pakistan.

How so?

I'm required to pretend to give a damn about Greece.
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Quote from: DGuller on June 25, 2012, 08:34:13 PM
It seems like such a disheartening vicious circle.  If we don't violate Pakistan's sovereignity, it becomes a state harboring al Qaeda (more than it already is).  If we strike with drones inside it, however, then Pakistani government loses what little credibility it has.  No one can win there.

Of course we can.  Pakistan has, what, a hundred nuclear devices?  And no credible delivery mechanisms.
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Quote from: Scipio on June 26, 2012, 01:04:17 PM
I'd call Pakistan the Greece of Asia, except Greece is far worse than Pakistan.

I'd say it's more like Greece, ex-Yugoslavia and Afghanistan with nukes

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