The Miscellaneous PC & vidya Games Thread

[Drakken]

oh ha-ha! Do not blame me for the inability of the others here. 

They pretend to be hard core strategy gamers, but then fail at grasping anything more realistic than HoI

I still have WW1 Gold, and I kind of liked it. However my grasp of the game mechanics is rather poor. As the provinces are cut on the map on the Western Front I was incapable to stop the Germans to reach Paris and block them even if I divided my French Corps to make a picket line; they'd just go around if I kept them together, or pounced into them if I separated them.

Unless it's supposed to be so, and the "Taxis de La Marne" triggers as an Event.

Playing the Russians, however, I can manage better at sacrificing moujiks to save the Motherland.

[Tamas]

Capturing a god damn machine gun nest on a hill without any grenades or heavy support? First day of Gallipoli apparently sucked.

[Drakken]

Now you gave me the World War One itch, you Hungarian motherfucker. 

So Commander : The Great War ot Strategic Command : World War 1? Or should I replug AGEOD's WW1 Gold? The World Wonders...

[Tamas]

Now you gave me the World War One itch, you Hungarian motherfucker. 

So Commander : The Great War ot Strategic Command : World War 1? Or should I replug AGEOD's WW1 Gold? The World Wonders...

Well you already have WW1 Gold. Fire it up, see if you can tackle it now. Just make sure to apply the latest patch:
http://ageoddl.telechargement.fr/3rdParty/WW1%20GOLD/Patches/WW1_Patch_v1.0.8q.exe

If you still don't like, I am leaning toward suggesting Commander: The Great War. I like it better than SC at the moment, altough can still be the "newness" feeling.

[Tamas]

BTW, with these latest patches, the turn-based AI in WW1G is supposed to be as active as with the standard mode.

Turn-based mode should help your France problem via interceptions. You can slow the enemy stack down by intercepting with a minimal force. Unless they Overrun you, their movement is halted, apart from possible Breakthrough with Reserves.

[Tamas]

  goddamn

I started a campaign in the tactical WW1 game, about a South African unit going against the Dendvil or whatever Forest at the Somme Offensive. With these campaigns, while you can play on if you end with a defeat, but there is a specific officer representing you. If he dies, campaign ends. With a lot of scenarios in some campaigns, that can be a bitch.

No problem like that here though. My guy fell just short of the German trench due to the miss-shot of a friendly mortar, on the 2nd turn of the first scenario. 

[Syt]

Dunno, the John Tiller squad battle games kinda lost me when I was unable to crack Iraqi bunkers with a repeated barrage from M1 tanks.

[katmai]

Should have tried it with T-72

[Syt]

Still, what really ticks me off about JT games is that with all his years of experience his AI still sucks donkey balls. His single player scenarios are usually stacked hilariously against the player, making them more puzzle games than tactical challenges. And whenever the AI would be required to do something actively it fails. Be it attempting to cross a river (not easy, but at least bring some troops near, and not piecemeal!) or even approach the victory locations (as happened in some Pike & Musket scenarios to me where I won battles by clicking "end turn" and not doing anything else).

It's a real shame, because he covers some very interesting and underrepresented eras (France '14, Leipzig 1813, 16th century etc.).

[Tamas]

Last time I tried his operational games, the AI was braindead yes. But they are okay in the Squad Battles. Altough like with most AIs, it's better if you are on the attack against it.

What I was wondering about in case of the WW1 game is all the pinning of my attacking troops. I mean, this is realistic for all I know, but damn it's hard to mount a proper assault. Though I guess the "I need big masses of troops to overwhelm the dug-in enemy but then the troops can be executed and pinned en masse" is kind of a historical problem for stuff like the late 1914 battle I was trying.

And of course my problem with every large-scale tactical scenarios, be it Squad Battles or Combat Mission is the tedium of moving all those troops.

Still, a very interesting topic seems to have been done well. And it's not like you can cherry-pick from WW1 tactical games.

[mongers]

Last time I tried his operational games, the AI was braindead yes. But they are okay in the Squad Battles. Altough like with most AIs, it's better if you are on the attack against it.

What I was wondering about in case of the WW1 game is all the pinning of my attacking troops. I mean, this is realistic for all I know, but damn it's hard to mount a proper assault. Though I guess the "I need big masses of troops to overwhelm the dug-in enemy but then the troops can be executed and pinned en masse" is kind of a historical problem for stuff like the late 1914 battle I was trying.

And of course my problem with every large-scale tactical scenarios, be it Squad Battles or Combat Mission is the tedium of moving all those troops.

Still, a very interesting topic seems to have been done well. And it's not like you can cherry-pick from WW1 tactical games.

So is it better or worse than WW1 Gold ?

[Tamas]

 

it's a tactical game.

[Tamas]

Ok, I am getting interested in the Cold War game being done on the HoI3 engine. There, I said it.

http://www.avault.com/features/paradox-strategy-tour/?page=3

[PDH]

You are hopeless, Beethead.

[FunkMonk]

And now for a game that is actually good. Imperialism released on GOG for $6. 

http://www.gog.com/gamecard/imperialism