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History question on how things might have been

Started by Darth Wagtaros, June 23, 2012, 08:22:09 PM

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Darth Wagtaros

I don't think this one has been covered. 

How would history have played out had Napoleon not invaded Russia and got the Grand Army destroyed in the process?

PDH!

Ed Anger

So nappy calms down after 1807 or did the Spain an Austria shit happen in '08 and '09?
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Darth Wagtaros

Everything happened as it did in real life up until the moment he decided to invade Russia.  Then he said, "fuck this shit.  Moscow ain't worth a mass of shit."
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Ed Anger

I'd assume Alex would get the Prussians an Austria to throw off the yoke. The Prussians were PISSED.Nappy gets overwhelmed eventually.
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Ed Anger

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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Ed Anger on June 23, 2012, 08:38:54 PM
I can't draw you a map on my iPad.
Just ask Tim. He probably has several variants.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on June 23, 2012, 08:39:46 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 23, 2012, 08:38:54 PM
I can't draw you a map on my iPad.
Just ask Tim. He probably has several variants.

They all involve Andrew Jackson ejaculating on the English.
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Neil

If Napoleon is no longer willing to enforce the Continental System with force, then it gets ignored.  And ultimately, Napoleon would never be able to tolerate that.  Russia gets invaded in 1813.
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Ed Anger

A better question is what happens if had listened to reason and wintered in Smolensk.
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PDH

What if he had wintered in Smolensk, not had Jerome in charge of an army, and had a someone with a halfway decent understanding of cavalry in charge of that arm.

Fuck it, clone Davout and have 4 of him running everything.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: PDH on June 23, 2012, 08:58:38 PM
What if he had wintered in Smolensk, not had Jerome in charge of an army, and had a someone with a halfway decent understanding of cavalry in charge of that arm.

Fuck it, clone Davout and have 4 of him running everything.

And bring Lannes back from the dead.
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Tonitrus

He should have ignored Russia and built dreadnoughts.  Take -that- Nelson!

Neil

Quote from: Tonitrus on June 23, 2012, 09:08:10 PM
He should have ignored Russia and built dreadnoughts.  Take -that- Nelson!
Early French dreadnoughts were shit anyways.
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Tonitrus

Quote from: Neil on June 23, 2012, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 23, 2012, 09:08:10 PM
He should have ignored Russia and built dreadnoughts.  Take -that- Nelson!
Early French dreadnoughts were shit anyways.

Besides, isn't Napoleon famously quoted as dissing the idea of steam-powered vessels?