Odd Alien Planets So Close Together They See 'Planetrise'

[jimmy olsen]

The fact that the orbit seems to be stable is the most amazing part! This is even more out there then the system in nBSG!

http://www.space.com/16242-alien-planets-close-orbits-planetrise.html

It is science fiction made fact: Astronomers have discovered two alien planets around the same star whose orbits come so close together that each rises in the night sky of its sister world like an exotic full moon.

The newfound planets are 1,200 light-years from Earth and an unprecedented find, researchers said. They differ greatly in size and composition but come within just 1.2 million miles (1.9 million kilometers) of each other, closer than any other pair of planets known, according to a new study.

One of the newly discovered alien planets, called Kepler-36b, appears to be a rocky "super-Earth" 4.5 times as massive as our planet. The other, Kepler-36c, is a gaseous, Neptune-size world about eight times as massive as Earth. The two planets meet up every 97 days in a conjunction that would make each dramatically visible in the other's sky.

"These two worlds are having close encounters," said co-lead author Josh Carter, of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, in a statement.

At their closest approach, the two planets are separated by five times the distance between the Earth and the moon. How such different bodies ended up in such similar orbits may be tough for current theories of planet formation and migration to explain, researchers said.

"This is unprecedented," co-lead author Eric Agol, of the University of Washington, told SPACE.com via email. "They are as different in density as Earth and Saturn (the highest and lowest density planets in our solar system), yet they are 30 times closer than any pair of planets in our solar system." (Agol later clarified to SPACE.com that Kepler-36b and c are actually more like 20 times closer together than any two planets in our neck of the woods.) [Gallery: The Strangest Alien Planets]

Strange neighbors

The two known planets in the Kepler-36 system — which is located in the constellation Cygnus (The Swan) — were detected by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope.

Kepler is staring continuously at more than 150,000 stars, watching for telltale brightness dips caused when planets cross in front of the stars from the telescope's perspective. Since its March 2009 launch, Kepler has flagged more than 2,300 potential alien planets; while only a small fraction have been confirmed to date, mission scientists think more than 80 percent of them will end up being the real deal.

Kepler-36c, which is about 3.7 times wider than Earth, likely has a rocky core surrounded by a substantial atmosphere filled with lots of hydrogen and helium, researchers said.

Kepler-36b, on the other hand, is a super-Earth just 1.5 times wider than our planet. Iron likely constitutes about 30 percent of its mass, water around 15 percent and atmospheric hydrogen and helium less than 1 percent, researchers said.

Though they're very different in size and makeup, the two planets travel on surprisingly similar paths around their host star. Kepler-36c orbits once every 16 days, at an average distance of 12 million miles (19 million km). Kepler-36b orbits each 14 days and sits about 11 million miles (18 million km) from the star.

Kepler-36b probably formed relatively close to the star, while Kepler-36c likely took shape farther out. Astronomers model large-scale migrations that can bring initially far-flung planets much closer together, but the peculiar Kepler-36 system may force some refinements, researchers said.

"These models rely on assumptions that will likely have to be 'tweaked' or refined to account for both b and c's proximity and compositional differences," Carter told SPACE.com via email. "The existence of Kepler-36 may help clarify or invalidate these assumptions."

Both planets are likely too hot to support life as we know it, with Kepler-36b probably sporting lava flows on its surface. They orbit roughly three times closer to their host star, known as Kepler-36a, than the hellishly hot planet Mercury does to our sun. And Kepler-36a is likely a bit hotter than our star, researchers said.

An impressive sky scene

Every 97 days, Kepler-36b and c experience a conjunction that brings them within just 1.2 million miles (1.9 million km) of each other — roughly five times the Earth-moon distance. This would be quite a sight for an observer on the surface of either planet.

"Planet c would appear roughly 2.5 times the size of the full moon when viewed from the surface of planet b. Conversely, planet b would appear about the size of the full moon on planet c," Carter said.

"We can speculate on the appearance of planet c: It may appear slightly more purple that Neptune," he added. "The purple hue owes to absorption of red and yellow by sodium and potassium. There could also be a slight brown tint owing to hazes of photo-disassociated methane."

Such dramatic vistas could well be around for many years to come, researchers said, for the orbits of Kepler-36b and c appear unlikely to change anytime soon.

"We are addressing this in a follow-up paper, but the short answer is that yes, these do appear to be stable on a long timescale," Agol said.

[Ideologue]

Cool.

[Phillip V]

[CountDeMoney]

"THIS is Kepler 36b!"

[Faeelin]

All these planets, and none remotely earthlike.  Makes you think.

[Barrister]

All these planets, and none remotely earthlike.  Makes you think.

Selection bias.  Larger planets are easier to find.

[Siege]

The Galaxy is teaming with life.

[derspiess]

I remember a film we saw in junior high back in the mid-80s (the film itself was likely from the early 70s) that stated that life was probably not present on any planet in the solar system outside our own, but theorized on what possible life might look like on different planets.  On Pluto they showed menacing-looking yeti-type creatures stomping around in the snow, as if Pluto were just a little bit cold.

[The Brain]

I remember a film we saw in junior high back in the mid-80s (the film itself was likely from the early 70s) that stated that life was probably not present on any planet in the solar system outside our own, but theorized on what possible life might look like on different planets.  On Pluto they showed menacing-looking yeti-type creatures stomping around in the snow, as if Pluto were just a little bit cold.

Well, how cold can it be?

[DontSayBanana]

The Galaxy is teaming with life.

You jizzing on star charts doesn't count.

[Siege]

What does the future holds?
Space travel, technological inmortality, the end of suffering?

Or death and destruction at our own hands or alien hands?

[OttoVonBismarck]

Well, how cold can it be?

Pretty cold at ~45 K, but I've never got why Pluto has the "frozen" stereotype in pop culture (see various sci fi shows, Futurama etc.) Yeah, Pluto is cold, but really Saturn/Neptune/Uranus would probably be almost as cold if they weren't gas giants but were instead rock. Some of the moons of those gas giants are almost as cold as Pluto's mean temperature (and would be colder most likely if not near the gas giants which give off radiation.)

I don't think most people realize that you don't have to be that much farther out in the solar system than the Earth for things to be unspeakably cold.

[Cecil]

Isnt Triton the coldest object with an atmosphere in the solar system?

[Phillip V]

What does the future holds?
Space travel, technological inmortality, the end of suffering?

Or death and destruction at our own hands or alien hands?

Buddha can help you end your suffering.

[Syt]

I don't think most people realize that you don't have to be that much farther out in the solar system than the Earth for things to be unspeakably cold.

Indeed the dark side of the moon would suffice.

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